Hi,I'm planning on doing a build and wondering if to go intel or amd? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks.

Toughbulldog · Jan 27, 2016

Wondering which is better to build amd or Intel.

Zerk2012 · Jan 27, 2016

Intel is the only way to go for the processor with AMD you really have no upgrade options.
AMD will work if your on a very low budget it cost les to build because it can't match the performance.
For the video card it really don't matter usually you can get a bit better performance for the money with a AMD video card.

ScrewySqrl · Jan 27, 2016

Right now, for gaming, unless you have a sub $500 budget, Intel is the way to go.

AMD's chip are old (the FX series is 4 years old) or limited (the Athlon II 860K and related APUs). any of Intel's skylake i3/i5/i7 chips just leave AMD eating dust. The AMD FX 6300 and Athlon II 860K is just about the only chips worth using, on very inexpensive systems

Toughbulldog · Jan 27, 2016

Thanks for reply, I heard that intel are best but Dx12 will run multiple core which would help performance as 8350 has eight cores where must intel only have 4 physical cores,is this right?

Toughbulldog · Jan 27, 2016

As rumours I hear may I add...lol

Joshua_32 · Jan 27, 2016

Just rumours, and Intel have 6 core chips if that's your thing. Intel are far superior and miles ahead, it's not even a competition unless budget is a factor.

ScrewySqrl · Jan 27, 2016

not really. the intel cores are enough faster individually that the 8350 just cant keep up wth any i5.

if you want 8 threads, an i7 or, as a cheaper alternative, the haswell-based Xeon E3-1231 v3(or 1230 or 1240 or 1241) give you the 8 threads at i5 prices. Skylake Xeons don't drop into consumer boards like the Haswells do, and those C232/236 boards out now cost too much for there to be any effective savings over an i7

Toughbulldog · Jan 27, 2016

Where does it seem where ever you go everyone dislikes amd? Thinking bout 3770k but thinking about holding out to see what amd zen chip will be like...does anyone have any info on this?

Joshua_32 · Jan 27, 2016

Toughbulldog :

AMD are miles behind in the CPU game, and they're starting to fall behind in the GPU field too (No thanks to games being better optimised for Nvidia)
Zen might be a game changer, who knows. It's not out till late this year (October)

Edit : i3 out performs the best AMD chips. I hold high hopes for Zen. I really think it could be a game changer for AMD given there FX is 4 years old.

azca · Jan 27, 2016

decide for yourself, don't listen to people that never used an AMD cpu or gpu in their life:
https://youtu.be/Rutk9ErhKG4?t=2m30s

Toughbulldog :

Wolfshadw · Jan 27, 2016

The only answer here is, "it depends on your budget and your intended usage". If budget allows, go Intel. If not, go AMD. It's that simple.

-Wolf sends

Toughbulldog · Jan 27, 2016

Thanks for link azca, looks like there ain't a great deal of different really. Looks like amd 8350 does good for a old chip, I'm a console gamer and changing to pc coz thinks it's getting bigger, budget not a problem just not going stupid amounts, basically won't something ready for division!

Rogue Leader · Jan 27, 2016

I am an AMD guy and I'll tell you to go Intel. As mentioned AMD's current technology is behind on speed. Their "performance line" (the FX chips) are 4 years old now. "In theory" they should be faster, but time and time again they are proven not to keep up as well anymore except on certain applications. If you don't have budget concerns and are buying now, Intel is the only way to go.

Wolfshadw · Jan 27, 2016

If your only intent is gaming and your budget allows for an FX8350, what you'll want to do is figure out the cost of the FX8350 plus a motherboard. Then find an equally priced Intel set up (processor and motherboard) and then compare the two in gaming benchmarks. Find which set up performs better and go that route.

-Wolf sends

gripper · Jan 27, 2016

well I'm not going to just sell you intel chips, i5/17s are great but don't forget that for games alone the 8350 is still at this time a relavent cpu,
that's not even mentioning that for rendering it is quite potent
dx12 will of course help the ageing 8350,...although intel chips will also benefit
lets not forget that dx12 is written by Microsoft for its xbox one console, which also has an 8 core amd chip the same can be said with vulkan for ps4
for the next year or two the 8350 could receive an unexpected boost in performance

ScrewySqrl · Jan 27, 2016

not everything will use DX 12...DX 9 is still being used for some games.

RIGHT NOW, an AMD FX 3820 is not cost effective vs an i3-6100 in games, never mind any i5s.

I say this while having an AMD APU laptop and my wife's PC (that I built) is also an AMD APU.

I'm not anti-AMD, but until Zen comes out, AMD is hopeless as a gaming PC.

gripper · Jan 27, 2016

of course the release of dx12 doesn't meen 9,10,or 11 will cease to be used but it does mean that developers using dx 12 will have a lot more room to use the many idle cores of an 8 core cpu,this is fact
dx11 has been very restrictive for amd,with it being written to take advantage of single core performance
lets be honest apart from better intergrated graphics 15/17 have stagnated since sandy brigde

Toughbulldog · Jan 27, 2016

ScrewySqrl :

if amd was so hopeless... as you put it for gaming why does xbox/ps4 choose you use amd apu? understand there not the best consoles in fact reason for building a pc is coz of how poor I think both are,places I have looked amd aint far behind(bare in mind I am compairing a 4 year old chip),some games worse than others,but most hold there own.yes overall intel is slighty better, but that's a bold statement and a crazy one to say amd ...gaming....hopeless...

ScrewySqrl · Jan 27, 2016

they chose th AMD stuff because it was low-power and inexpensive. not because it was teh strongest or fastest, and in 2013 when it was being designed, it was still competitive on cost with sandy/ivy bridge.

It was 'fast enough' with just enough GPU (similar to a HD 7850 in PS4, HD 7790 in XBOne) to get 30 fps at 1920x1080

Toughbulldog · Jan 27, 2016

or possible they need a chip the could multitask due to consoles wanted to do everything...so 8 cores was the best solution, who knows but Microsoft sure aint short of funds and would of took any opportunity to whip floor with ps4, all I was say you pointed out how hopeless amd is...im after advice not a fan boy throwing his 2 pence worth in. theres is better ways of doing it.

ScrewySqrl · Jan 27, 2016

low power is critical: most Consoles will sit in a poorly ventilated area, often behind glass.

low cost s also critical. There is a maximum price users will pay for a console, and if the parts inside are more expensive than that, you lose money on each sale. That happened with the PS3, it didn't break even on cost for 2 years.

the PS4 and XBone opened at $400, whicvh was about the value of the parts inside

Toughbulldog · Jan 27, 2016

ScrewySqrl :

must consoles when released will make loses over a period of time,thats why certain franchises of games will make they money. this is here or there its got nothing to do with what I asked,all I'm stated Is you came across as a intel fan boy,which you are aint a problem but don't just say amd hopeless ...isn't much help to me. thanks

Toughbulldog · Jan 27, 2016

gripper :

yeah think that's what make choices harder,things are on edge at moment not knowing if amd will get a bigger boost from dx12 heard their gpu will get more of a boost.by what I read it will be more than what nvida get out of dx12. only time will tell on that. but really want a build for the divison,im pretty sure what I'm doing now after here and reading up.

gripper · Jan 27, 2016

I think to say "AMD Hopeless as a gaming pc" is rather unfair ,I agree that if your wanting to spend a small fortune on a pc then take the intel route.
if however you want to build a pc that will give good performance over price then amd is still the go to choice for now .
it is sad however that amd and intel cant be talked about without fanboyism,
yes amd need to step up and bring more innovations like they always have in the past
for now all I can say about your pc build is do your homework on amd and intel ,build the machine you want to and don't be put off a certain part because your told its hopeless by a fanboy

Joshua_32 · Jan 27, 2016

gripper :

Fanboys? C'mon, wake up man. No on here is fan boying, it's fact. If you're budget can afford Intel, get it, if not go with AMD. It's simple rather, no one is denying that AMD are decent, but it's evident that even i3's out perform the best FX chip.

Hi,I'm planning on doing a build and wondering if to go intel or amd? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks.

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