Best bang for the buck Skylake processor

Mohd Mamat · Jan 28, 2016

Im upgrading from FX-6300, so i would like to know, which processor from the Skylake series offers the best bang for the buck?(i5/i7). for the mobo imma go for the z170a XPOWER TITANIUM, now i just need the chip to complete the rig. Oh also, is faster DDR4 speeds affect performance in any way for these Skylake chips? Thanks in advance for any replies

superninja12 · Jan 28, 2016

ddr4 makes as good as no difference compared to ddr3 atm (1fps).

are you going to overclock or not ? if yes get a i5 6600k if not get a i5 6500 or i5 6600 with a h170 gaming m3 motherboard.

drobert124 · Jan 28, 2016

i5 6600K. Or, if on a budget, get a i3 6100. To be honest, the FX6300 is still a solid chip, although any Skylake chip will beat it. Have you considered upgrading to a 8350 or 8320?

Mohd Mamat · Jan 28, 2016

drobert124 :

I have, but considering how DOA is the socket is already, its more favorable to upgrade to a newer tech that could last me a few years with new features. I struggled on content creation and major AAA titles with the FX nowdays, even OC'ed with ample power.

Mohd Mamat · Jan 28, 2016

superninja12 :

What distinguishes the H and the Z chipsets though? (ex. H97,Z97 etc etc)
OCing might be a yes.

Dulith1118 · Jan 28, 2016

going for the 8350 is useless cuz for the same price 4460 will beat it... and as for u question if ur not overclocking 6500 is the best bang for the buck cpu.... and if u r overclocking 6600k....

superninja12 · Jan 28, 2016

z97 z170 supports overclocking h97 h170 does not. overclocking will give u a 3fps boost( heavy fps like 5-8).
but will drastically reduce your cpu lifespan so its up to you

Mohd Mamat · Jan 28, 2016

Dulith1118 :

Whats about the news that non-K chips can be OCed too? Heard it at WCCF and ArsTechnica

superninja12 · Jan 28, 2016

also 6600 doesn't support overclocking but 6600k does

Mohd Mamat · Jan 28, 2016

superninja12 :

But they maintain the same set of features?(ex. USB 3.1,M.2,Sata Express etc etc)?

superninja12 · Jan 28, 2016

what tea urging said go for a i5 6600 and a h170 gaming m3 motherboard I'm more than sure you will be happy with the performance.

drobert124 · Jan 28, 2016

Get a i5 4460 or 4690k or 4790k

Mohd Mamat · Jan 28, 2016

tea urchin :

the only difference for 6500 and 6600 is only the base clock and turbo clocks amirite?

Dulith1118 · Jan 28, 2016

yes the 6500 and the 6400 can be overclocked with the asrock boards and they support it.....

superninja12 · Jan 28, 2016

Mohd Mamat :

yes they do look up the msi h170 gaming m3 (I'm sure your wallet will be more than happy)

blazorthon · Jan 28, 2016

USB 3.1 is not a part of the chipset, it is added on through adapters installed in the board, so any chipset board can have it. However, it is more common on Z series boards, but that's just because those are the boards that it makes more sense in for the motherboard manufacturers.

Mohd Mamat · Jan 28, 2016

superninja12 :

As long i can do seamless content creation with gaming smoothly, im considering this option seriously

Mohd Mamat · Jan 28, 2016

Dulith1118 :

will research more abt it

thanks

TJ Hooker · Jan 28, 2016

superninja12 :

Do you have a source for saying it drastically reduces lifespan? As long as you keep voltages and temps in a reasonable range, I'm pretty sure you don't need to worry about chip longevity.

Yes, you can overclock non-k Skylake CPUs on some (most?) Z170 boards, with several drawbacks. To the best of my knowledge, the drawbacks are: C-state/power saving features are disabled, CPU core temperature can no longer be read properly, integrated graphics are disabled, and poor AVX instruction set performance. I think a few companies announced non Z170 boards that could overclock, but it sounded even more hacky/more drawbacks than non-k overclocking on z170 boards.

blazorthon · Jan 28, 2016

Also, all of the Skylake CPUs can be overclocked if they're paired with a Z170 board. They can all overclock with BCLK overclocking that way. The K edition models will usually overclock better because you can scale farther with the multiplier than with just the BCLK alone in most situations, but I bet a good 15% to 25% is possible on the BCLK in most situations and that's pretty close. Also, overclocking using one of the cheaper Z-170 boards (can be found around $90) let's you keep more of the features that overclocking on non-Z would have cost you.

For non-Z overclocking, ASRock has decided to not allow it anymore despite their earlier claims. That means that only Supermicro has a non-Z board capable of overclocking and it is expensive, so you might as well get a Z170 board instead because they can be found cheaper.

Overclocking has not been shown to significantly harm a CPU's usable lifetime if done in moderation (IE no extreme overvolting) and assuming you keep temps under control as TJ Hooker says.

Mohd Mamat · Jan 28, 2016

blazorthon :

ahh, that cleared up my previous assumption that z170 boards natively have 3.1 on them

Mohd Mamat · Jan 28, 2016

tea urchin :

sorry for the questions, since i know less abt intel, but how much different is the i5 6600K and the i7 6700K is raw performance tho?

superninja12 · Jan 28, 2016

TJ Hooker :

hey tj, check out this link http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1753522/overclocking-reduce-lifespan-gpu-cpu.html

there more links but all link say the cpu lifespan is reduced by 2+ years out of 5-10 years.
so what drastically means... thats up to you...

Mohd Mamat · Jan 28, 2016

TJ Hooker :

superninja12 :

Do you have a source for saying it drastically reduces lifespan? As long as you keep voltages and temps in a reasonable range, I'm pretty sure you don't need to worry about chip longevity.

Yes, you can overclock non-k Skylake CPUs, with several drawbacks. To the best of my knowledge, the drawbacks are: C-state/power saving features are disabled, CPU core temperature can no longer be read properly, integrated graphics are disabled, and poor AVX instruction set performance.

So it means that it would screw the chip abit if OC'ing on a non-K chip?

superninja12 · Jan 28, 2016

Mohd Mamat :

the best question to this answer is look it up on youtube i5 6600 vs i7 67000 benchmarks...

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