Shuts Down But Mobo Lights and PSU fan still on.. please help!

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Hello my name's John I'm new here, I just finished building my first PC last weekend and overall its been a great process. However there are still some kinks I'm trying to work out.. the initial issue was the support DVD that came with my Asus Maximus VIII Hero mobo was screwy and I've had to download and install most of the drivers directly from their website. So I'm wondering if maybe a missing driver or two explains why I'm having this issue where when I shutdown my computer (whether with the button or in Windows) it clicks like its shutting off but then suddenly the fan in the power supply (not the case fans) starts up again and the lights on the mobo/graphics card, etc all come on.. even though the display has gone dark and Windows seems to have shut down. Then it just stays like that indefinitely... so I have to just use the switch on the PSU.

Also: I have tried disconnecting all the front panel connectors from the mobo and starting it with the button on the mobo, shut it down using Windows and the same problem occured again..
Thanks for any help :)
 

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Basically it wasn't reading easily at all, making a bunch of noises in the drive, and acting weird.. getting stuck on loading screens, etc. Every other driver disc worked great (graphics card, network card, etc). I also handled everything very carefully, and regularly touched my case to discharge static. I'm writing this on the computer right now, so it works well in general, mainly just this annoying issue of not shutting down. Recently, like the last 2-3 times, instead of the screen going black it just gets stuck on the blue 'shutting down' screen.. and eventually restarts itself like 20-30 min later saying "Windows didn't shut down correctly". I usually just switch off the PSU though

This is my hardware if its helpful:

Intel i7 6700K with a Hyper 212 EVO
Asus Maximus VIII Hero
Samsung 850 EVO 250gb
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16gb
Asus Strix GTX960
Rosewill Photon 850W
TP-Link N900 Wireless Adapter
Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-bit


 

JFM22

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Yea I doubt my friend will have any extras, so maybe I should go to Microcenter and buy another just to try it out? Could return it if it turns out not to be the issue.. faster than sending it back to Newegg. Tried calling Asus support to see if they could help me twice today and was on hold for ages.. but I'm going to call again tomorrow

Another issue I was wondering about is why I'm getting 'trailing' or lagging windows when I have like 3+ open and move one? I also notice screen tearing when scrolling through webpages.. Is this normal and I'm just being picky? I'm using a HP 2310m monitor (60Hz), maybe its time to upgrade or.. just change some graphics settings?

Thanks for your help
 

targetdan

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Can you give us your full specs? Or a pcpartpicker list ideally?

Yeah I would try a replacement psu and like you say just return it if not needed.

I think during that process you should disconnect everything but the cpu and ram, then we can go from there
 

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Ok will do, I may go get it tonight or tomorrow. Here's my parts: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YJdT8d . The monitor is a 2310m not an e

I changed my theme too, i'll see if that issue keeps happening, I'm thinking it might just be some graphics settings or the fact that my monitor is 'old' at this point

 

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OK, I did some searching, here are some options. Frankly, a whole lot is pointing towards a messed up BIOS setting or driver issue.

I think he should contact ASUS and get a new DVD and install from there, then he knows it should be a clean slate.

otherwise

1) Messed up BIOS setting. This is from a 2009 issue

"Going through the Asus P5B-E Forum I found the fix for this issue and it's so easy a ....well, you know!

Go into the windows control panel and the device manager to the tab for IEEE-1394 Bus Host Controllers and click the tab to expand it then right click for properties and under power managment click "Allow the computer to turn off this device...." and all is back the way it should be!"

from https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-performance/pc-doesnt-shut-down-wwindows7/02f1744f-82a6-445c-a1d1-ff279c4b18a4?auth=1



2) Other steps here (at least we are up to 2013, but it starts sounding familiar)

http://www.wintips.org/windows-7-not-shutdown-completely-problem-solved/

Windows 7 NOT shutdown completely problem – Solved

Sometimes in computers that run Windows 7 the following problem appears: When you try to do a shutdown, the PC doesn’t turn off completely, with all fans and LED’s remaining on (working) and the only way to power it off completely is to continuously press the Power button. In our case this problem appears on a customer’s PC running Windows 7 OS with a Core 2 Quad Q8400 CPU (running at 2.66GHz) on a Asus P5K Deluxe motherboard.

The actions performed to resolve this problem, but without success, were the following: *

Notice*: All actions are performed without any external USB device(s) (e.g. USB Flash Disk, etc.) plugged in.

1. Replacement of Power Supply device.

2. Fresh Installation of Windows 7 OS (Professional Version) and latest Windows updates.

3. Installation of Microsoft HotFix (Fix297411) for similar problem: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/977307.

4. Hardware Clear (Reset) CMOS settings.

5. Modification (Enable > Disable) ACPI / APIC settings inside BIOS Setup.

6. Bios UPGRADE to the latest version (ver. 1005) – Motherboard: Asus P5K Deluxe / WiFi-AP.

After doing all these, without any success, the only solution that worked at last, was to modify the Power Settings for the on-board Firewire and Ethernet devices in Windows Device Management.

If you face a similar problem with you computer, then try this solution:
How to modify Power settings for hardware devices.
Step 1: Open Computer Device Management.

To Open Windows device management on Windows 7 Operating System:

1. Go to “Start” and then right-click on “Computer” and from the drop-down menu, choose “Manage”.

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2. Choose “Yes” to “User Account Control (UAC)” warning message.

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3. Click “Device Manager” at the left navigation pane.

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Step 2: Modify Power Settings for Firewire and Ethernet devices.

Modify power settings on your Firewire (IEEE 1394) device(s).*

Notice*: Repeat the same operation for all IEEE 1394 Controllers.

1a. Look at the right pane and after expanding “IEEE 1394 Bus host Controllers”,

1b. Right click on your IEEE 1394 controller(s) (e.g. “VIA 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller”) and choose “Properties”.

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2. At “VIA 1394 OHCI Compliant Host Controller” properties window choose “Power Management”.

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3. At “Power Management” tab, UNCHECK the “Allow this device to wake the computer” option and press “OK”.

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Now modify the power settings for your Ethernet (NIC) adapter(s).

Notice*: Repeat the same operation for all Network adapters

4a. Expand “Network Adapters”.

4b. Right click on your network adapter(s) (e.g. “Marvell Yukon PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller”) and choose “Properties”.

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5. At “Marvell Yukon PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller” properties window choose “Power Management”.

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6. At “Power Management” tab, UNCHECK the “Allow this device to wake the computer” option and press “OK”.

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7. Restart and then try to Shutdown your computer.

In my case, using the above procedure, the computer was completely shutdown without any problems.

Good luck!

Here is another, but its more for existing systems, and some POS installed software isnt shutting down properly

3) Use MSCONFIG Startup tab
by wpgwpg / November 20, 2012 1:45 AM PST
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Apparently one of the programs you installed is loading something at bootup that doesn't shut down when it's supposed to, so here's what I recommend. Hold down the Windows key and press the R key. Type MSCONFIG and hit enter. Click the Startup tab. Here you'll see a list of tasks getting started automatically when you boot up. Look for the ones related to the programs you installed and uncheck them. It won't hurt to uncheck everything except your antivirus program, but try just unchecking the ones related to the new programs if you can. Then click OK and reboot. Your new programs will still run, they'll just take a second or so longer the first time you start them.
 

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Yea I have Windows 7. I talked to Asus and am pretty sure I have ALL the mobo drivers now. I also tried the MSCONFIG solution, unchecking all the boxes (there were only about 6), but the problem persists. Also worth mentioning is that when I flip on the PSU switch before using the power button the lights on my mouse are already on.. as well as all the lights inside (graphics card, mobo etc., the hard drive light isnt on though which i guess makes sense).. so to my noob logic this seems to indicate something wrong with the motherboard.. since the mouse is hooked directly into that, maybe a short or something?
 

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After talking with Asus, updating bios firmware and swapping for a new power supply without any change to the problem I've concluded its a bad mobo and will be calling to return it tomorrow. Hopefully that is the solution, if not I'll be back! Ill also likely be upgrading to Windows 10 since some of the software for the mobo didnt play well with Windows 7
 

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So I sent the board back for a replacement, as well as upgrading to Windows 10, but the same issue is still happening... I'm wondering if maybe its normal and the lights on my graphics card, board, and mouse are just supposed to stay on when I turn off the computer (this doesn't make sense to me though I dunno why the mouse lights would stay on). To be clear, I've only just tried shutting down the computer once and it *did not* get stuck on the shutting down screen as it sometimes did in Windows 7... so I dunno where to proceed or if there is even a problem lol. My friend also told me to look in the BIOS for a setting that might be causing my problem.. but I have no idea what to change and I'm afraid to mess with it.
 
If you're talking about the green light on the mobo that stays on I'm pretty sure all ASUS mobos have it.

I've got 3 ASUS desktops here. This light is on all the time. Even if theyre off.

It means theres power going to it. Try updating the BIOS in the BIOS. If you havent updated it yet

And if the mouse is still on it did happen with some mobos. It doesnt on this tho.

On this desktop when it's off, you cant use the USB ports. But on the newer build, I'm pretty sure you can (you can charge something if you plug it into the port)



 

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Reviving this thread since my custom pc is still having all sorts of issues. Tomorrow I plan to call Newegg and seriously bend their ear about how much shit I've put up with.. In the meanwhile I thought I'd list some of the issues I've been having hoping someone might have a suggestion or two (maybe some other diagnostic tools or something, anything that might help)..

This is my setup again:
Intel i7 6700K with a Hyper 212 EVO
Asus Maximus VIII Hero
Samsung 850 EVO 250gb
Corsair Vengeance LPX (2x8gb)
Asus Strix GTX960 4gb
Rosewill Photon 850W
TP-Link N900 Wireless Adapter
Windows 10 64-bit (did the free upgrade from Win 7 to see if it might solve some issues)

I'll just make a short list of recent issues that have been occurring in the last 2-3 days (there are others but too many to list for now) and some solutions I've tried:

1) Listening to music on Soundcloud (just Chrome open) just now and suddenly audio buzzes/stutters fast and then the computer restarts itself. Same exact thing happened yesterday while I was playing CSGO right in the middle of a game. Also happened once about 2 weeks ago playing SC2.

Solutions tried: Tried running the Windows 10 memory diagnostic tool and got no errors. Yesterday I uninstalled the Geforce experience on another suggestion. I also updated the BIOS (new update came out 4/1) for my mobo which was suggested way back a month ago.. no help.

2) Yesterday I went to turn it on and only the CPU fan spun up max speed with my monitor black. Had to force shut down. Earlier in the day I changed overclocking to XMP from auto to see if that might help any of my problems but no seemed to create this one. Went back into BIOS and put everything back to auto. Seems to have solved that issue so far..

3) Computer still only sleeps 50% of the time.. other times gets stuck on black screen and restarts, other times it shuts down instead.. depending on its mood I guess. Updating BIOS was suggested for this but hasn't helped.

4) All of the Asus mobo software has been pretty awful. Two days ago I opened AI Suite and noticed overclock was up 167%. BCLK frequency was at 136 from its usual 100. Before then it was always at ~29% auto overclock with BCLK at 100. This is what prompted me to try XMP just to give that a shot. All I want is a stable machine, I don't care for overclocking or auto anything at this point honestly, 4.0GHz stock is plenty fast for me.. but seems I can't even get that

Sorry for all the rambling, does anyone have any other diagnostic tools suggestions?
The mobo has been the main suspect but maybe its a bad CPU? or corrupted Win10? or maybe its a network card issue?
Thanks for any help


 

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It sounds like you are overclocking with software and/or the bios autofix. I would recommend turning both of those off.

Software OC < BIOS auto-OC < doing it yourself and testing for stability.

Have you run a chkdisk before? I would give that a go since a lot of those issues *could* be down to hard drive problems. Samsung's are normally rock solid in my experience but it's worth checking.

Dan

 

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For overclocking I changed the CPU core ratio in the BIOS from 'sync all cores' to 'auto' and that gives a much milder overclock (like 5%). I don't really feel confident in manual overclocking but if you think that would maybe solve some of my issues/provide more stability I would do it.

Last night I was playing Starcraft and suddenly the computer locked up and the audio was stuck in a really loud annoying loop (this is like the 4th time this has happened, always happens playing video games). I had to force shut down using the case button as usual. A tech rep from Newegg suggested this might be a graphics card problem. He told me to take out the card and run on integrated graphics and I did that for a day or two. He thought that might solve the sleep/shutdown issues too.. but those issues persisted. I didn't get the freeze up but that's likely because I can't really run the games off integrated graphics lol.. frame rate is unplayable.

I ran the chkdisk tool and got no errors. I also ran the Windows 10 memtest again and got no errors. So its either the CPU, the motherboard or the graphics card it seems.. or a combination lol
 

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In case anyone in the cybersphere was reading this thread, I finally found the solution that worked: Wiping my drive and doing a clean install of Windows 10 (seems the upgrade from 7 screws things up). All problems solved except a weird graphical thing with CSGO. All sleep/power/freezing issues have vanished thank god