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Hi, i dont know should i get R9 270x or wait a little bit and get R9 280x, how much is the difference on the performance..
My specs now:
FM2+A55MVG3
A8 5500 3.2ghz
R7 260x
8gb Hyper X
I want to upgrade my graphic card first and then i will upgrade my motherboard and cpu, but i want to know just should i wait for r9 280x or buy r9 270x now..And how much performance boost i will get with these specs and these cards?
 
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The 280x is the stronger card hand down and it will be a noticeable difference between the two.

However you current cpu will bottleneck you before you gpu will but if you plan to upgrade the cpu to a stronger one in the next few months to a year then definitely go with the 280x

GTA V
http://www.techspot.com/review/991-gta-5-pc-benchmarks/page2.html

fallout 4
http://www.techspot.com/review/1089-fallout-4-benchmarks/page2.html

those benchmarks show both cards when the cpu isnt the bottleneck.

Another option if you can find a good sale on a 380x it performance about 10% better than the 280x in newer games and a bout equal in older
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The 280x is the stronger card hand down and it will be a noticeable difference between the two.

However you current cpu will bottleneck you before you gpu will but if you plan to upgrade the cpu to a stronger one in the next few months to a year then definitely go with the 280x

GTA V
http://www.techspot.com/review/991-gta-5-pc-benchmarks/page2.html

fallout 4
http://www.techspot.com/review/1089-fallout-4-benchmarks/page2.html

those benchmarks show both cards when the cpu isnt the bottleneck.

Another option if you can find a good sale on a 380x it performance about 10% better than the 280x in newer games and a bout equal in older
 
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Thanks, but if i go with a R9 280x and my current specs i could still play all newer games?I play Gta V on medium-high with 35 fps, with this card, could i get maybe 60 fps with R9 280x and this processor?
 
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The R9-270X is only two tiers stronger on tom's hierarchy list:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
They do not recommend an upgrade unless it is at least three tiers higher.
You will be disappointed if you do not see a meaningful improvement.

Physically, you may be limited by your psu.
A 270X wants 500w, a 280X wants 600w.
Here is a chart for other options:
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page362.htm

Then, as mentioned above, the apu cores are relatively slow and that may be your limiting factor.

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To help clarify your CPU/GPU options, run these two tests:

a) Run YOUR games, but lower your resolution and eye candy.
If your FPS increases, it indicates that your cpu is strong enough to drive a better graphics configuration.
If your FPS stays the same, you are likely more cpu limited.

b) Limit your cpu, either by reducing the OC, or, in windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.

You should also experiment with removing one core. You can do this in the windows msconfig boot advanced options option. set the number of processors to less than you have.
This will tell you how sensitive your games are to the benefits of many cores.

If your FPS drops significantly, it is an indicator that your cpu is the limiting factor, and a cpu upgrade is in order.

It is possible that both tests are positive, indicating that you have a well balanced system, and both cpu and gpu need to be upgraded to get better gaming FPS.
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I tried now to lower the resolution in game from 1080p to 720p and fps didnt changed at all.I tried it on Gta 5 and everything else is on medium-high and i still get 35 fps.But i didnt tried to lower the cores yet, when i try that i will tell you..I got a good quality 500w psu so do you think i will get better fps if i buy r9 270x or i need to change my cpu in order to get better fps?
 
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If you lower the load on the graphics card, and you get no improvement, it tells me that your cpu is the limiting factor for your games.
Upgrading the graphics card might let you use more eye candy, but it will not improve your fps if your cpu is the limiting factor.

I fear buying an APU was a unfortunate decision.
You buy a APU for the excellent integrated graphics.
But, there are no real good upgrades, particularly for a gamer.
If you install a superior discrete graphics card, you will have thrown away the big advantage of the APU.
Then, you are left with a relatively weak cpu. Most games depend on only a few fast cores.
The possible upgrades are to more cores, but few games will use more than 2-3 cores so 6+ cores are not very helpful.
Bottom line.....
What you get with a APU is what you will live with forever.
 
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Or should i buy something from Athlon X4 series like 860k or something?Can you tell me a good FM2+ processor that will work just fine with this graphics card pls..
 
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The $130 A10-7850K has a single thread passmark rating of 1565.
Your current A8-5500 is 1269.
Yes, you would do better. But I think you may still be disappointed.
The X4-860k has a single thread rating of 1598.

By comparison, the $125 skylake i3-6100 has a single thread passmark rating of 2086.
Even the Cheapest skylake cpu, the $65 G4400 dual core has a single thread rating of 1834.

My best suggestion is to spend a bit more.
A i3-6100 at $125.
and a lga1151 motherboard that supports DDR3 ram that you can reuse.
That might be $60 for a motherboard such as this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132688
The nice thing with lga1151 is that you have cpu upgrades to i5, i7, and the upcoming kaby lake processors.

 
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Would it be better to buy AM3 motherboard and some FX Cpu?
 
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I think that i will buy Athlon X4 860k and then i will buy R9 270x, because i dont have enough money to change motherboard, processor and graphics card..So i think i will just go this way..
 
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