All I play is WoW and my FPS has dropped. So I bought an EVGA 750 ti but realized my rig is from 2011 and the 3.0 isn't supported on mobo. So I am looking to budget build an Intel rig. Trying to decide if I should go I3 dual core or I5 quad core and also if I should do dual 750ti's or buy a 960-970. What's your thoughts
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i recomend you to go with i5. if you go with i3, you will get board soon.
and for graphic card, see this
http://lifehacker.com/5994276/is-it-worth-it-to-run-two-graphics-cards-in-my-gaming-pc
and for graphic card, see this
http://lifehacker.com/5994276/is-it-worth-it-to-run-two-graphics-cards-in-my-gaming-pc
Sell the 750 ti and buy a 970. later this year amd zen will be out so it's better to upgrade the mobo and cpu later if WoW is all you're playing coz the price will definitely get cheaper. it'd be a waste to upgrade now if that's all you're gonna be playing WoW.
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#1: GTX 750 Ti does not support SLI.
#2: PCIe 3.0 card is backward compatible with PCIe 2. slots.
Lets just start from the beginning:
What are your current system specs? Please include your power supply mfg & model #, monitor mfg. & model #, and your old graphics card mfg. & model #. What were your old FPS and the new lower FPS that prompted you to upgrade your GPU? There is a piece of the story missing from your description, which is why I'm asking all these detailed questions.
#2: PCIe 3.0 card is backward compatible with PCIe 2. slots.
Lets just start from the beginning:
What are your current system specs? Please include your power supply mfg & model #, monitor mfg. & model #, and your old graphics card mfg. & model #. What were your old FPS and the new lower FPS that prompted you to upgrade your GPU? There is a piece of the story missing from your description, which is why I'm asking all these detailed questions.
Ok so I have an AMD phenomII x2 555 black edition 3.2 ghz
Gigabyte GA 870A-UD3-AM3
2x2GB G Skill ddr 1333
HIS Radeon HD 4670
The power supply is a good one forget what but I spent a lot on it 2 years ago
All this was purchased new in 2011
And it has actually been a very solid machine for what I do with it.
The problem has started since October as I bought a Sceptre E275W monitor
And my game play in ashram has increased and now find FPS down to 12-18 in battle.
Any where else I'm pulling 40-70 FPS with no issues.
Let me know if you need any other info
Gigabyte GA 870A-UD3-AM3
2x2GB G Skill ddr 1333
HIS Radeon HD 4670
The power supply is a good one forget what but I spent a lot on it 2 years ago
All this was purchased new in 2011
And it has actually been a very solid machine for what I do with it.
The problem has started since October as I bought a Sceptre E275W monitor
And my game play in ashram has increased and now find FPS down to 12-18 in battle.
Any where else I'm pulling 40-70 FPS with no issues.
Let me know if you need any other info
Ags1
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Hmmm, your CPU is bit old and quite limited (my laptop AMD A10 CPU is faster per core and overall, for example) and if I recall correctly WoW is pretty CPU-limited in large battles, cities etc. Your issues may not be related to graphics performance at all.
If it is because of the monitor, what is the resolution of the new monitor versus the old one? A higher resolution is going to kill your FPS. This is also a simple change in graphics settings of course.
And just to underline what others have said, your current PC can run the 750Ti.
If it is because of the monitor, what is the resolution of the new monitor versus the old one? A higher resolution is going to kill your FPS. This is also a simple change in graphics settings of course.
And just to underline what others have said, your current PC can run the 750Ti.
Well my thought was my current pic is old and with a new expansion coming out next fall, I think, that a new build would be good- so I was looking at this:
Intel I5 6600K
An MSI mobo ??
8 gigs of ram
SSD for wow and OS
1TB HD for other stuff
And 2 750ti or 1 960-970
Case and 5-600 watt psu
So my question is would this be good for 60 FPS in ashram which will be 80 man events?
Intel I5 6600K
An MSI mobo ??
8 gigs of ram
SSD for wow and OS
1TB HD for other stuff
And 2 750ti or 1 960-970
Case and 5-600 watt psu
So my question is would this be good for 60 FPS in ashram which will be 80 man events?
rcald2000
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I've looked up the system requirements, and your CPU being dual core, and your old GPU having 512 MB of VRAM (I'm assuming it's not the 1 GB version), placed your system in the minimum requirement category for Wow in general. Your 750 Ti has 2 GB of VRAM, so that's clearly good. Had I advised you before you made the GPU purchase, I would have suggested a EVGA b-stock (factory recertified) GTX 950 ( http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=02G-P4-2957-RX ). It just went out of stock a few days ago, but they should have inventory before the end of this week. To give you a performance reference, three 750 Ti's approximately equals one GTX 970. And two GTX 950's "almost but not quite", equals one GTX 970. Also, Nvidia specifically tweaked the drivers of the GTX 950 for MMO games, as that's the card's target audience. Btw, 750 Ti's do not support SLI, but GTX 950's do.
Troubleshooting step: Download and run HWMonitor ( http://filehippo.com/download_hwmonitor/ ) by clicking green "Download latest version" link on the upper right side of page. Run the game and then determine what are the CPU and GPU temperatures and utilization? (4 pieces of information total). Also, a 5th piece of information I'm seeking is to know how much RAM your computer is using while playing this game? You can simply open task manager (hold Shift + Tab + ESC keys simultaneous -> then click "Performance" tab. How many GB listed in memory field?
Question: What was the manufacturer and model of your previous monitor? If you don't remember, could you please tell me the resolution of the previous monitor? I'm asking because I have a theory that the resolution greatly increased, which lowered your FPS.
Question: What is the precise manufacturer and model # of your power supply? Both answer are equally important in determining what graphics cards are an option for your current rig.
Addendum: I do agree that your computer was a great one when you purchased it in 2011 but that it's time for an upgrade. However, I think we should solve this issue on your current rig, so that you're in no rush to build a new rig hastily.
*** notes ***
Sceptre E275W: 27" display, 1920 x 1080 resolution @ 60 Hz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112024
GPU: HIS Radeon HD 4670. 512 MB or 1 GB model?
I'll be honest, I've never played WoW, so I didn't know what Ashran was, until I googled it:
google query: what is wow ashran
google result: http://wow.gamepedia.com/Ashran
WoWPedia Excerpt: "Ashran is a level 100 instanced[1] cross-realm[2] "end game" world PvP zone found in eastern Draenor.[3] The name also refers to the greater Ashran zone, including the Alliance and Horde capitals, which are set outside of the PvP zone itself. The zone has a cap of 40 players per side, with multiple Ashran instances for each server".
WoW system requirements: https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/world-of-warcraft-system-requirements
minimum requirements:
dual core (non-hyperthreaded) CPU, 2 GB RAM, GPU with 512 GB of VRAM
recommended requirements:
quad core (non-hyperthreaded) CPU, 4 GB RAM, GPU with 1 GB of VRAM
Troubleshooting step: Download and run HWMonitor ( http://filehippo.com/download_hwmonitor/ ) by clicking green "Download latest version" link on the upper right side of page. Run the game and then determine what are the CPU and GPU temperatures and utilization? (4 pieces of information total). Also, a 5th piece of information I'm seeking is to know how much RAM your computer is using while playing this game? You can simply open task manager (hold Shift + Tab + ESC keys simultaneous -> then click "Performance" tab. How many GB listed in memory field?
Question: What was the manufacturer and model of your previous monitor? If you don't remember, could you please tell me the resolution of the previous monitor? I'm asking because I have a theory that the resolution greatly increased, which lowered your FPS.
Question: What is the precise manufacturer and model # of your power supply? Both answer are equally important in determining what graphics cards are an option for your current rig.
Addendum: I do agree that your computer was a great one when you purchased it in 2011 but that it's time for an upgrade. However, I think we should solve this issue on your current rig, so that you're in no rush to build a new rig hastily.
*** notes ***
Sceptre E275W: 27" display, 1920 x 1080 resolution @ 60 Hz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112024
GPU: HIS Radeon HD 4670. 512 MB or 1 GB model?
I'll be honest, I've never played WoW, so I didn't know what Ashran was, until I googled it:
google query: what is wow ashran
google result: http://wow.gamepedia.com/Ashran
WoWPedia Excerpt: "Ashran is a level 100 instanced[1] cross-realm[2] "end game" world PvP zone found in eastern Draenor.[3] The name also refers to the greater Ashran zone, including the Alliance and Horde capitals, which are set outside of the PvP zone itself. The zone has a cap of 40 players per side, with multiple Ashran instances for each server".
WoW system requirements: https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/world-of-warcraft-system-requirements
minimum requirements:
dual core (non-hyperthreaded) CPU, 2 GB RAM, GPU with 512 GB of VRAM
recommended requirements:
quad core (non-hyperthreaded) CPU, 4 GB RAM, GPU with 1 GB of VRAM
Ok so this will make you laugh, my old monitor was manufactured in December of 2005 it's a Xerox model XR6-19Dw. I also paid over 300 bucks for it new
As the video card goes it is the 1g New egg #N82E16814161315 no longer available of course.
So yes I built this rig to recomended requirements for WoW in 2011.
I am not really worried about upgrading this rig as I am with getting some new parts for playing WoW for the future expansion.
From what I have read is that wow now wants 2 core with hyper threading, so just want to get opinions, as the I3 is dual core and the I5 is quad core but about 100 bucks difference.so the question would be with a budget build should I do an I3 with a 2-300 buck GPU or the I5 with a cheaper GPU. If I get an I3 and higher end card with a good mobo I can always upgrade the processor to an I5 or 7 next year or something.
Also want to thank you all for your input and time spent helping me out.
So yes Ashran is an FPS killer for almost any PC as you are getting 80 different people on one screen all doing different things at once. So your processor is trying to show everything through your GPU or so I believe, all at once and can cause havoc on your monitor. My experience in there now is not horrible but I usually have to lay back and wait for the battle to start winding down before being able to see what's going on. In regular 10-10 and 15-15 BG's it's no where near as bad.
As the video card goes it is the 1g New egg #N82E16814161315 no longer available of course.
So yes I built this rig to recomended requirements for WoW in 2011.
I am not really worried about upgrading this rig as I am with getting some new parts for playing WoW for the future expansion.
From what I have read is that wow now wants 2 core with hyper threading, so just want to get opinions, as the I3 is dual core and the I5 is quad core but about 100 bucks difference.so the question would be with a budget build should I do an I3 with a 2-300 buck GPU or the I5 with a cheaper GPU. If I get an I3 and higher end card with a good mobo I can always upgrade the processor to an I5 or 7 next year or something.
Also want to thank you all for your input and time spent helping me out.
So yes Ashran is an FPS killer for almost any PC as you are getting 80 different people on one screen all doing different things at once. So your processor is trying to show everything through your GPU or so I believe, all at once and can cause havoc on your monitor. My experience in there now is not horrible but I usually have to lay back and wait for the battle to start winding down before being able to see what's going on. In regular 10-10 and 15-15 BG's it's no where near as bad.
Ags1
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Your old monitor is 1440x900, so the GPU has to work 60% harder at 1080p (and also needs 60% more VRAM). In your WoW graphics settings at least adjust the resolution down to 1440x900 or lower. This will help your current GPU (and probably take some load off the CPU).
The CPU issue is not so much feeding the GPU as doing all the calculations about interactions with the other game entities, doing interpolations to account for network latency and so on - all that work has to happen on the CPU and is directly proportional to the number of people in the zone.
The CPU issue is not so much feeding the GPU as doing all the calculations about interactions with the other game entities, doing interpolations to account for network latency and so on - all that work has to happen on the CPU and is directly proportional to the number of people in the zone.
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