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I building a new Gaming PC.

Intel Core i7-4790K
ASRock Fatal1ty Z97
Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB
GPU= GTX 970???
Samsung 850 PRO 128GB SSD
EVGA SuperNOVA 750 B1 80+ BRONZE

What is the best GTX 970 for this build. There are so many different options. Also, what is you review of my gaming build? Any changes? And what would be a good small tower case
 
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Some games were made to suck NVIDIA's ass and hate AMD. You are right, on paper, in raw performance, in sheer power, the R9 390 is definitely better but because NVIDIA owns 80% of the GPU market, more game developers optimize their game for NVIDIA GPUs and even co-op to make the game run bad on a better AMD build due to lack of optimization. AMD's lacking drivers do not help either although they did step up their game.

Honestly, I...
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I will put all of this into a PCPartPicker build, and you need a new PSU

1. What is your budget?
2. What settings do you want to play in?

Also i would reccomend a R9 380X
 
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Here is the build, I put an r9 390 In there as it is around the same price as the 970, but better.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/d9Nbqs
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/d9Nbqs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty Z97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($83.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card ($309.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($72.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1036.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-04 23:17 EST-0500
 
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It is a B1 Series, which doesn't have a very good reputation. The one i put in the build is fully modular as well.
 
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The build above looks very nice! What is the main difference between the two cards? The GTX 970 and the 9 390? It looks to have a much lower engine clock 1060 for the r9 and 1367 for the GTX 970
 
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What would you guys personally suggest for the GPU. Reasons why? Strengths and weaknesses? Thanks for your help. This is a really big decision for me, I only get one chance at this build. And I want it to be amazing!!!
 
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Well, i have just taken other people word on AMD's RAEDON cards, because I haven't gotten mine yet. You can get an 8GB one for the price of a 4GB 970, with a higher memory bus speed, and higher frames on games like Crysis 3, etc. I'm getting a 380, as I'm short on a budget. It's pretty much up to if you want to go with the flashy brand or the better brand.
 
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I've been doing some research on benchmarks. And though the R9 390 looks better on paper the GTX 970 out performs it for gaming. In fallout 4 the GTX 970 can consistently hold a 1080p 60 FPS on ultra while the R9 390 continually drops down into the hight 40's and low 50's during the gameplay. Thoughts?
 
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No idea, I don't specialize in graphics cards. I look into Motherboards, RAM, and CPU's. I can try and get someone on here to talk to you.
 
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Hello guys. I have been summoned from the depths of Tom's Hardware so I am here to help.

Now, is this a PC for gaming only? No editing, rendering, 3D modeling, virtual machines, streaming etc?

This is a better build for the money:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card ($309.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $993.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-05 00:05 EST-0500

If gaming is #1 priority and is pretty much the only priority, this build will be better:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170 Pro4S ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($109.88 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card ($404.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $993.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-05 00:10 EST-0500

A couple of explanations:
1) 4 cores is just enough for gaming so i5 is good enough while i7 is not necessary.
2) 8GB RAM is enough for any form of gaming.
3) R9 390X > R9 390.
4) Asrock enables overclocking of locked Skylake chips on their Z170 boards with Sky OC.
5) Skylake > Haswell/Haswell-refresh/Devil's Canyon + it is an upgradable platform.
6) G2 power supplies are one of the best, highest quality units on the market.
7) I am stupid and only now realized that P2 is the same price as G2 so grab the P2 instead: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220p20650x1
8) That 128GB SSD is overprices af.

Good luck :)
 
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I've been doing some research on benchmarks. And though the R9 390 looks better on paper the GTX 970 out performs it for gaming. In fallout 4 the GTX 970 can consistently hold a 1080p 60 FPS on ultra while the R9 390 continually drops down into the hight 40's and low 50's during the gameplay. Thoughts?
 
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You pretty much negated my build in 5 minutes... haha. Thanks for your help.
 
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Some games were made to suck NVIDIA's ass and hate AMD. You are right, on paper, in raw performance, in sheer power, the R9 390 is definitely better but because NVIDIA owns 80% of the GPU market, more game developers optimize their game for NVIDIA GPUs and even co-op to make the game run bad on a better AMD build due to lack of optimization. AMD's lacking drivers do not help either although they did step up their game.

Honestly, I actually started recommending AMD GPUs to people recently. Previously I went with NVIDIA all the time because of crap like this - NVIDIA has the GPU market and there is no denying it. More games will be optimized and play better on NVIDIA cards although more unbiased games will really perform better on the 390.

Also, 390 has double the 970's VRAM which it can actually utilize so heavily modded games and high details will be easy to crank up with the 390.

Decide for yourself. I would personally go with 970 but many people prefer raw power of the 390 and its future proof VRAM.
 
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