Terrible FPS/Spiking/Thrashing require assistance

romaozh

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Hey all. I'm new here. I've always seemed to find answers here and I hope the community could help me with one of my own. I recently purchased a new GPU for my rig. GeForce GTX 970 FTW. yeah, its a nice card, a big upgrade from my GTX 650. I noticed some spikes and fps drops on my 650 which I assumed was because I was running games that exceeded its capability. Now, it seems to have gotten worse. I've reformatted my drive. Entirely fresh, new drivers, new everything. The game I notice it to be INCREDIBLY unplayable is Rust. I'm able to get into the game and play for, say 30 minutes and then the spiking will start. From 101 fps spiking down to 70 fps. For a very brief second. Then they'll continue to spike every 20 or so seconds. 101 to 70, 101 to 67, 101 to 40s. I'll manage to make it back to my base after spiking all the way back and at that point, I'm cruising at 30fps! Whenever I turn my mouse the fps will drop even more! I believe this is called, "Thrashing" if I'm wrong please correct me. I'm not a very tech savvy person especially when it comes to hardware. I'm also not an idiot and quite capable of learning whatever is thrown at me. I've noticed these FPS spikes in Diablo 3 as well. However, the constant "thrash" does not happen in that game. Just longer and harder spikes. 1 second long as opposed to Rust being only a 0.2 second spike up until the massive unbearable "thrash". I'm at my very knees here. I'm not sure what could be the issue. I've looked at my resource manager and its showing me very high Memory Usages, almost capping out at my 8gigs. I've also looked at Open Hardware Monitor to give me an idea of whats possibly overheating or being over-used. I've got 8gigs of ram but it shows me only 4gigs available. And those numbers usually fluctuate. When I was 1 hour into Rust I opened Resource Manager and saw that I was sitting at 6.78 Memory usage out of my 8Gigs total. I'm not sure if this is an issue. I also turned to the Hardware Monitor and saw that 2 of my CPU cores #1 and #3 are at 100% under the MAX bracket. Once again, not sure if this could be an issue either. If anyone has any idea what could be causing this please, any help is appreciated . My PC specs are as follows:

MSI Z77A-G41 Mobo
Intel Core i5-3570k @ 3.4Ghz
EVGA SuperNova 650W Gold PSU
4x2 Kingston 1600mhz RAM
1TB Seagate 7200RPM HDD
Nvidia GeForce GTX 970 FTW
Windows 7 64Bit

This is the Hardware Monitor screen I took just 5 minutes into the game experiencing the TERRIBLE fps lag. http://imageshack.com/a/img922/217/8U6RSb.jpg

EDIT: Ran Prime95 for 1 hour and it was free of all errors and/or warnings.
Ran Memtest86 and it turned out clear and error free as well.
 

romaozh

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Anyone have any thoughts? I've now updated my BIOS to the latest. I'm now running all Windows Updates. As of right now, the massive tearing is present as soon as I open up Rust. FPS drops as soon as the game opens and even sitting at a stand still looking at the ground.
 

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Can you test the gpu´s temps by using gpu-z =>sensors? Since the link you added gives very high max. gpu temps.

Or try this one,

Download hwinfo32,

http://www.hwinfo.com/download32.html

You can open hwinfo32,after that open the sensor window by checking sensors only=V,
after that click run

You have 2x4gb ram or 4x2gb ram? If the latest all from one set? They are working at rated specs? Look with cpu-z=>memory tab for current speed and timings,look at the spd tab for what it should be.
 

romaozh

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2 sticks of 4 gig ram. And yes, they both match. Kingston DDR3 1600 Mhz. I've downloaded. CPUID hardware monitor and the results are more or less the same.
 

romaozh

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This is my Firestrike result. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10653004

Could my harddrive be failing even though the Seagate Drive checking tool says it's fine? Ive done a lot of research and apparently Seagate HDD or any HDD will start failing after its 4th year. Considering my drive is running 24/7 as well. Would it be safe to assume the drive is causing the horrific lag spikes?

EDIT: Usually when I notice lag, its when I'm running in big OPEN world landscapes where my PC must render everything. Rust, ARK:Survival, Villagers and Heroes, and Diablo 3 ( 1 second freezes when running into large groups of mobs). Also happens on CS:GO, right when someone headshots me for the first time in a match. ALSO!!!! I've actually noticed this symptom for a very long time now. When I open up Ventrilo after restarting or shutting down my PC over night. I'll open Ventrilo and when the Message of the Day pops up and a sound comes with it, the sound lags for a good 20 seconds, ba-ding, ba-ding, ba-ding,ba-ding,ba-ding. Then it goes back to normal and I'm able to switch channels after it clears up.
 

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I can't do alot with that firestrike result,the only thing i see is that it says that your 1600mhz ram is running at 1333mhz.
The hd-tune looks fine to me,look at the healt tab,see of there are no "ok's".Maybe do an "error test" as well.

If the other tool also gives those hight temps for the gpu do you need to get into contact with the vendor and talk about an rma.It shouldn't be that hot.
 

romaozh

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I spoke with the vendor about an RMA. Will take 3-4 weeks. I'm not prepared to wait that long. They offered another option which is them sending a temporary replacement in return of compensation, which is the word the rep used. I may do that. Before I go ahead and RMA this card though. I really don't like those odd spikes in the HD Tune benchmark. I'm really hoping that when I throw in a new HDD that this problem will go away. The more and more I think about the issue, the more I can remember dropping things ontop on my PC. Phones, Tablet, Speakers.. I think the impact may have damaged the disk possibly. Or just heat over time.

EDIT: I'm just really led to believe it is a failing HDD. The lag spikes are really frequent in openworld games such as rust, which from what I've read, relies on the HDD to read/write the new information thats constantly being spawned in the world. Unlike other games which are already preloaded.
 

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