What do you think of this high end System for high end gaming ?

omidelf · Feb 5, 2016

mb : asus Maximus VIII Formula
cpu : intel i7 6700k
vga : gigabyte gtx 980 ti SLI
HDD : WD Black 4TB 64MB Buffer HDD
ram : Trident Z 16GB 8GBx2 3200Mhz CL16 DDR4
case : CM Storm Stryker
SSD : Neutron Series XT 480GB SATA3
power : Corsair HX1000i 80Plus Platinum Power
cpu cooler : Corsair H100i GTX Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler

do they work together well ?

is the 2 vga gonna fit in that case ? that case is big enough ?

is that SSD good enough compared to other SSD's ?

the power is enough for this system ?

and with that cpu cooler how far can i overclock my cpu without reducing its life ? like i want to know how far can i overclock it with the safest possible way , i don't really wanna damage it , so what is the safest amount for overclocking it , do i even need to overclock it for gaming at highest setting for the next 4-5 year ?

is this enough to run games at highest setting for the next 4-5 year for 1440p ? ( if not then how about 1080p?)

ALSO it is VERY important for me that my computer won't make any noise , so if there is any part that makes some noise please mention it

ak47jar3d · Feb 5, 2016

Yes, the build is compatible. The case is very big and both gpus will fit. 6700k is good enough without overclocking, but it would be shame not to overclock it. Its good ssd and performs very good in comparisons to others. 1000 watts is more than enough for that system.

bicycle_repair_man · Feb 5, 2016

That's a very nice build, particularly for 4K.

Everything looks good to me. Yes, you could swap the SSD for a Samsung or SanDisk, but all you're really doing is changing like-for-like rather than upgrading.

The 6700K is strong enough at stock speed and overclocking is highly unlikely to offer a performance boost from a gaming perspective. From a productivity perspective, however, overclocking can be very beneficial.

Hyboria · Feb 5, 2016

Looks pretty good to me.

1) Components all work together. RAM might be a bit excessive for my tastes but that's not really an issue.

2) GPUs will have no issue fitting in to the case - max length supported is 322mm, and I'm pretty sure the Gigabyte versions of the 980 Ti aren't any longer than 290mm.

3) You don't NEED to overclock that CPU for gaming, it'll do a cracking job at stock speeds.

4) Also, why not get an M.2 NVMe drive like the Samsung Pro 950 rather than the Neutron SSD you have listed there?

5) You may want to consider getting a slightly beefier PSU if you are planning on overclocking everything. Since you are going ham with how much money you are spending, why not just get the Corsair AX1500i PSU?

6) I don't overclock so I can't help you there.

7) I couldn't tell you what requirements games will have in 4-5 years time, but with that build I'd say you have a pretty good chance.

8) It's going to have to make SOME noise. Every single fan will make noise. In all likelihood the noisiest part will be the CPU cooler or the fans on the two graphics cards. If near silence is what you want then avoid overclocking - it'll just mean your fans will work harder (and louder) to keep your system cool.

omidelf · Feb 5, 2016

bicycle_repair_man :

what do you mean productivity prespective ? like it would make the pc run smoother ?

Hyboria :

4- considering that samsung is a PCI 3.0 , does my motherboard have enough pci 3 slots for 2 x gtx 980 and a PCI SSD ? doesn't VIII formula have only 2 x PCI 3.0 slots ?

also how faster is it compared to a SATA 3 SSD ?

smorizio · Feb 5, 2016

if you can wait pick up the pascal gpu in april when they drop.

ak47jar3d · Feb 5, 2016

omidelf :

bicycle_repair_man :

what do you mean productivity prespective ? like it would make the pc run smoother ?

Hyboria :

4- considering that samsung is a PCI 3.0 , does my motherboard have enough pci 3 slots for 2 x gtx 980 and a PCI SSD ? doesn't VIII formula have only 2 x PCI 3.0 slots ?

also how faster is it compared to a SATA 3 SSD ?

You can use m.2 slot for 950 pro. 950 pro is the fastest drive currently available.

bicycle_repair_man · Feb 5, 2016

When I say productivity, that basically means anything not related to gaming; video editing, photo editing, virtual machines, etc.

Even something basic like an anti-virus scan gets a boost from overclocking.

omidelf · Feb 5, 2016

ak47jar3d :

omidelf :

You can use m.2 slot for 950 pro. 950 pro is the fastest drive currently available.

sorry for rookie question but what is m.2 slot ?

this is what i saw in their website :

2 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slots
3 x PCIe 2.0 x1 slots
1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slot

so why didn't they just say 3 x PCIe 3.0 x 16 slots ? why did they say it like 2 x PCIe3.0 then 1x PCIe 3.0 x16 slot ?

so does that mean that i have 3 x PCIe 3.0 slots ? so 2 of them is used for my gtx 980 ti sli's and the other one is used for the SSD ,right ? ( sorry if i sound kinda newbee )

Hyboria · Feb 5, 2016

Listed under "storage" on the product page for that board : 1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M Key, type 2242/2260/2280/22110 storage devices support (both SATA & PCIE mode)*

Since you haven't given us a budget in mind, you could also go for an X99 enthusiast build and get an i7-5930k. That way you wouldn't have any worries about PCIe lane usage with 2x PCIe cards and a M.2 drive.

omidelf · Feb 5, 2016

Hyboria :

so are you saying that i can't use 2 x 980 ti and a PCI ssd on this board ? or i would have a problem using it ?

also what about this m.b : asus VIII extreme , this one has more PCI 3.0 slots , should i get this one instead ?

Hyboria · Feb 5, 2016

Nono, you can definitely go SLI on that board and still have fantastic performance from all of your components. It's just a simple case of being a perfectionist and wanting to get every last drop of performance out of every component that you are buying. The 5930k has 40 PCI lanes, which (correct me if I'm wrong) would give you the full performance of two GPUs running at 16x and the M.2 drive running at 4x

AFAIK there's only a minimal performance difference between running SLI in dual 8x and dual 16x mode though so I wouldn't stress.

omidelf · Feb 5, 2016

Hyboria :

well i am kinda newbie so i don't really understand what are these PCI lanes

you saying that the 5930k has 40 PCI lanes , so are you saying that the problem is my CPU ? how many PCI lanes does 6700k has ?

smorizio · Feb 5, 2016

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G1S91430&cm_re=m2_ssd_drive-_-20-510-051-_-Product
this is am m2 ssd it clips into a small slot on the mb. with sata ssd there a max spped of 550. due to the limit of the sata chipset. with ssd and newer controllers there using other slot/pci bus to max out the ssd. the newer ssd for the pci bus are fast but costly$$$

Hyboria · Feb 5, 2016

The 6700k has 20, but honestly man you'll have an absolute beast of a machine running two 980 Ti at 8x.

Do you actually have a budget for this machine though?

omidelf · Feb 5, 2016

Hyboria :

well i can only spend max 4000$ , but i really don't want a overkill , like i really don't wanna do a editing or professional stuff i just want this for gaming , so wouldn't that be just too much to get a 4930k just for gaming ?

i am getting confused , can you answer this question : what is the difference between the build i said with a PCI ssd compared to what you said ( 4930k and x99 ) in gaming and overall ???? will i get a much better performance if in gaming and from my SSD if i go with 4930k or not ..?

also will it make any difference if i get VIII extreme instead of Formula ? will my PCI SSD or vga's work better ?

Hyboria · Feb 5, 2016

omidelf :

To give you an example of what I was talking about with PCIe lanes have a look here : http://www.overclock.net/t/1562717/lightbox/post/24109206/id/2503892

He basically loses about 3fps running in 8x compared to 16x. 3fps! And that 3fps would likely cost you a good $300-400. Not really worth it in my opinion.

If you just want it for gaming, stick with your original build and just switch to the Samsung Pro 950 M.2 drive I suggested, instead of the Neutron SSD. What I am suggesting is definitely overkill for what you want to use it for.

omidelf · Feb 5, 2016

Hyboria :

my last question is where should i connect this samsung Pro 950 ?
can you say which number in this link : https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-VIII-FORMULA/

so number 16 says this :
M.2 Socket 3 Type M
PCIe Gen3.0 x4 mode
SATA mode

also number 13 :
2 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slots
3 x PCIe 2.0 x1 slots
1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slot

so my gtx 980 ti sli will take 2 of PCIe3.0 slots right ? so i should connect that ssd to the last PCI 3.0 slot ? is there enough slots on this m,b ?

also in newegg website : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132265
it says this :
2 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x16 or dual x8, gray)
1 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (x4 mode, black)

what does it mean ? what is the difference between (x16 or dual x8, gray) and (x4 mode, black) ? which one should i connect my SSD and which one is for VGA ? ( sorry if this sounds stupid but i'm just trying to learn! )

Hyboria · Feb 5, 2016

omidelf :

The M.2 drive connects to an entirely different slot (see 16 on that link you provided). Have a look at the image I uploaded. The green circles indicate the two slots the GPUs would connect to. The M.2 drive would connect to a slot hidden underneath the area higlighted in red. You can see there's a small screw you need to remove.

There are plenty of slots on that motherboard for what you are planning on buying.

omidelf :

The colours here are referring to the actual colour of the PCIe slots on the motherboard. You can see the two I highlighted in green are grey. These are the ports you could plug both of the graphics cards in to. The port at the very bottom is the one listed as black, because it is actually black. Don't plug your cards into this.

omidelf · Feb 5, 2016

Hyboria :

omidelf :

The M.2 drive connects to an entirely different slot (see 16 on that link you provided). Have a look at the image I uploaded. The green circles indicate the two slots the GPUs would connect to. The M.2 drive would connect to a slot hidden underneath the area higlighted in red. You can see there's a small screw you need to remove.

There are plenty of slots on that motherboard for what you are planning on buying.

omidelf :

The colours here are referring to the actual colour of the PCIe slots on the motherboard. You can see the two I highlighted in green are grey. These are the ports you could plug both of the graphics cards in to. The port at the very bottom is the one listed as black, because it is actually black. Don't plug your cards into this.

so i should connect the pci ssd to the red circle right ?

also can i even connect it to the grey pci or the black pci (4x mode ) ? if not then why the name of that samsung SSD ends with a PCIe x4 ? (SAMSUNG 950 PRO M.2 512GB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 Internal Solid State Drive )
does that mean i should connect it to the black pci ? ( since newegg says its a x4 mode)
what is that black pci is even for ?
and what is the difference if i connect it to the red circle or somewhere else ? ( considering if i can actually connect it to them)

Hyboria · Feb 5, 2016

Yes, there is a connection underneath the red circle that is for the M.2 drive. You will not be able to plug the M.2 drive into any other connection than the one hidden under the red circle.

PCIe stands for Peripheral Component Interconnect Express, and as such is just a generic term used for connections that are used to connect peripheral devices (such as a GPU or the M.2 drive here) to the motherboard. The number, such as x4 or x16 refers to the number of communication channels that connection has.

The additional black PCIe port at the bottom would be used if you wanted to have 3 cards in SLI.

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