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I've seen often enough that people got good ideas on how to improve the set people post, so it would probably be better to get a 2nd opinion on this.

Case: Sharkoon Vs4-S [Window Kit, 2x Front USB 3.0]
Mainboard: Asus A88X-PLUS [FM2+ ATX]
CPU: AMD A10 7850K
CPU Cooler: bequiet BK009 pure Rock
GPU:Asus Radeon R7 360
RAM: Crucial BLS2CP4G3D1609DS1S00CEU Ballistix Sport [4GB per stick, only using 2 at first]
PSU: Listan BN221bequiet Pure Power L8 [350W] (Here I got a few questions: First the different PSU calculators give me different answers. The one from bequiet says I need maximum 280 W, while some other Calculator says I'd need over 500.. Also, this PSU only has an efficiency of 87%. I could buy a PSU with 400 Watt and 94%, but that would be a waste of power already, wouldn't it?)
SSD: Samsung Samsung MZ-75E250B/EU EVO 850 [250GB]
HDD: The HDD I'm currently using.
Fans: bequiet BL046 Pure Wings

Any Ideas on things I could replace, e.g. to safe some money? Also, I am not completly sure if the AMD A10 7850K and the R7 360 can work together for Dual-Graphics. An expert confirming this would be appreciated!
 
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with amd cards in Crossfire they can be different cards, nividia cards in sli have to be the same card though.
but i dont believe the r7 360 will work well, it will limit its power to the speeds of the 7850k, only the R7 240 and the R7 250 are compatible.
7850k dual graphics compatibility
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2103941/amd-a10-7850k-dual-graphics-compatibility.html

for psu id recommend a 550w 80+ gold from, EVGA, it will last you forever, both the GS and G2 model are very good, get whichever is cheapest.
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220gs0550v1
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20550y1
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with amd cards in Crossfire they can be different cards, nividia cards in sli have to be the same card though.
but i dont believe the r7 360 will work well, it will limit its power to the speeds of the 7850k, only the R7 240 and the R7 250 are compatible.
7850k dual graphics compatibility
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2103941/amd-a10-7850k-dual-graphics-compatibility.html

for psu id recommend a 550w 80+ gold from, EVGA, it will last you forever, both the GS and G2 model are very good, get whichever is cheapest.
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220gs0550v1
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20550y1
 
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Dustin is correct the strongest card that will work for Dual Graphics is the R7 250 (which are overpriced IMO). But if you are going to get a discrete graphics card I advise you to get one of the FX CPU's instead of the A10 APUs cause they will offer better performance for the price.
 
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Im not sure how much money you can spend upgrading your build, but If you wanted to get another card and do crossfire that would improve your performance a lot, your current gpu is a little low end for newer games. But AMD gpus are extremely overprices right now, might even be better to buy a nvidia card and try to sell your current one.
 
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I haven't bought any of these yet. So I don't need to sell anything either!
Well, I realised now that Dual Graphics aren't what I need now.. Thanks for the answer!

But wait, I also got a question on the PSUs: If I'd really take a 550W PSU while my System only needs around 300W, wouldn't that be a HUGE waste of energy?
I've looked around a bit already and I think I should take an AMD Athlon X4 CPU and I'll follow your advice to get a better graphics card.
 
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A 550w will allow you to upgrade a ton in the future, you dont want to have to upgrade your psu every time you want to get a new component. And the power supply will only pull as much energy as it needs. (your system needs 300W it will only put 300W into your system). You want to get a high end psu and motherboard usually because they are the hardest to replace. Also low end power supplies sometime have problems, so I usually go big or go home.
If you wanted to go cheaper then get the CX430 ($20 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026&cm_re=430w_power_supply-_-17-139-026-_-Product
I'd get a GTX 950 for a new gpu if you want to go the nividia side.
If you can afford $30 more, id get the FX 6300 (which would require a AM3 socket motherboard)
 
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There is actually a sale right now. You can get this 500w PSU from EVGA for $20 bucks (sadly i bought two of these last month for $35)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438012&cm_re=evga_500w-_-17-438-012-_-Product
 
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Dang it just sold out...
 
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Okay, thanks for clarifying the question about the PSUs. When I look for the GPU at
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Cooling-Graphics-02G-P4-2951-KR/dp/B013WQCC8Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1454712118&sr=8-1&keywords=GeForce+GTX+950
there are 4 Versions.. Which one do you recommend? Is it worth paying more money for the (slightly) better versions?
 
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EVGA-A little better clock speeds and comes with a free game, but has 1 fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487156&cm_re=gtx_950-_-14-487-156-_-Product

Gigabyte-A little slower clock speeds, but 2 fans (and still very quiet)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125809&cm_re=gtx_950-_-14-125-809-_-Product

Both are great, you wont notice a difference in performance between the two, and even though the other has 2 fans it wont run that much cooler than the other as long as your pc has good air flow, choice is up to you, are you worried about your pc having bad air flow? then go with gigabyte, want the extra 3 fps and a free game, go with the EVGA.
Both are very good and only $130.
 
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Okay, I made my decision. I will take the strongest one (1200MHz) with 2 Fans on amazone.
As CPU I take the FX 6300 and another motherboard. Thanks for staying with me on this!
 
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If you mean the one that cost $180 its not worth it at all
If you can easily afford $180 id recommend an R9 380

I was going off the fact that the first gpu who were going to get is only $100 so i assumed you had a lower budget?
 
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Well. Which one would you recommend now with the best price/performance ratio? I won't be able to purchase anything on newegg.
 
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When I add up all the Parts without the GPU I have 488€. I could go to 600-640. If it would be REALLY worth it in terms of being able to play later games then up to 680, but that's maximum. So the GPU would have a budget of 112-152 (or 192 if needed)
Just so you know, I am not aiming for Ultra graphics and everything, I just want some standard graphics with, if possible, 60 FPS.
 
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In US there is R9 380s on sale for 150€, but in Europe they are very expensive, we are back to where we started, go with whichever brand/version of the GTX 950 you can afford, Tell me how much a 950 cost for you? Should be about 125€-155€
 
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Okay. So It's either the one with 1 Fan and 1152 MHz for 140€ or the one with 2 Fans and 13 more MHz for 162€.

I'm not really worried about my airflow, so I don`t think I really need more fans. 13 MHz probably wouldn't be worth 22€, would they?
 
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juast a note: If you're getting a discrete card, DON'T get the 7850K APU, get the 860K instead. the 7850K's built-in GPU will be disabled with the discrete GPU, so you might as well get the 860K, which is a 7850K wth the GPU disabled.. might even save enough money to jump up a step in GPU
 
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I changed my mind on using an APU to just going with the FX 6300 DustinV recommended. So no need to worry about that.
(And I also changed my Mother Board obviously)
 
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Good luck on your build with the FX 6300 (new motherboard) and the single fan gtx 950, Build sounds very solid now.

I don't think you can overclock the single fan model, but still its like 3 fps for 22euros, definitely not worth the 2 fan model.
 
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