Both my HDD's run slower than anyone else, what can I do?

Yuki Core · Feb 6, 2016

I use this site called Userbenchmark.com to test my system for performance issues. All the components I have perform above average, except for both my HDD's. What is wrong? What can I do to improve this?
Here is my bench - http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/740266

dylanestrada · Feb 6, 2016

Are you running them in a RAID setup?

Yuki Core · Feb 6, 2016

dylanestrada :

I remember leaving Sata mode in AHCI, but I am not really sure what it all means. I didn't do the homework

DrRedstone · Feb 6, 2016

How long have you had these drives? If you've had them for more than 5 years, you should expect the drives are starting to fail, but both failing at the same time is very coincidental, so try checking your fragments. If you don't know how to read the below:

Press your start menu, and on the left press Computer, right click any drive and press properties, now on the tabs on the top press Tools and select Defragment (it says "Defragment Now" if your not running RTM) When your press that, windows defragment should pop up, now select the 2 failing drives and analyze them. DO NOT ANALYZE YOUR SSD, IT WILL ALWAYS SAY 0% AND JUST WASTE YOUR READ CYCLES!
If your fragments are above 6% or more optimize them, that should speed it up if thats the problem.

Yuki Core · Feb 6, 2016

DrRedstone :

The 1TB drive I have for about 3 years, and 3TB one I got just a month ago. Windows is automatically defragmenting the disks, so they're defragmented, double checked.

DrRedstone · Feb 6, 2016

well at least turn off auto defrag for your SSD because windows 7 doesn't do it automatically, but if its not fragments, try downloading this to test your drives: http://www.seagate.com/files/www-content/support-content/downloads/seatools/_shared/downloads/SeaToolsforWindowsSetup.exe

Even know your drives aren't seagate, it works for pretty much anything.

Yuki Core · Feb 6, 2016

DrRedstone :

Windows doesn't defrag the SSD. It's not selected to be, and cannot be selected for defragmentation.
And the program you suggested searched for "supported devices" and found none.

dylanestrada · Feb 6, 2016

Yuki Core :

I've never used a RAID setup myself, but this guide might help you

http://www.pcworld.com/article/132877/RAID.html

DrRedstone · Feb 6, 2016

dylanestrada :

Yuki Core :

I've never used a RAID setup myself, but this guide might help you

http://www.pcworld.com/article/132877/RAID.html

He doesn't have RAID enabled, he already said he never messed with it.

photonboy · Feb 6, 2016

Hey,

Update: I'm going to test my own system and comment below as I know my system is working properly.

*This benchmark does NOT appear to be comparing identical parts, but rather similar parts in that category (i.e. CPU vs CPU, SSD vs SSD...)

Seems like a RIDICULOUS benchmark to me since it doesn't tell you if your system is working properly or not. For example, you get an acceptable performance level for your CPU if you are at the 59th percentile or above?

Also...
RANDOM and average scores for hard drives vary just on capacity alone. A 3TB HDD with the same AVERAGE performance of a 1TB HDD will be much faster on the outer edge so these statistics are just silly.

dylanestrada · Feb 6, 2016

DrRedstone :

dylanestrada :

He doesn't have RAID enabled, he already said he never messed with it.

Can't he still set it up?

photonboy · Feb 6, 2016

Hey again,
Update...
UPDATE:
"A component achieves a status of 75% when it's faster than 75 out of 100 results for the same component. PC status is the average status of all the components in a system."

Then what's going on?

For example:
I have a 4TB Hitachi HDD and it failed at 48.7%, however it performs EXACTLY as it should according to the specs (tested with other programs).

and
My i7-3770K got a score of 76% and it's been tweaked to stay at 4.07GHz with all four cores running. So what the heck do these statistics even mean?

Is this saying somebody OVERCLOCKED theirs to 5.355 GHz so I'm 76% of that performance? Nope. As for the quote above it's out of 100 people so something is inherently wrong with this process.

I'm not sure what's going on then, though I really don't trust these tests. Something is wrong with at least some of them.

photonboy · Feb 6, 2016

Other:
You can run DIAGNOSTICS from the hard drive manufacturer to see if issues exist. In my experience, drives that pass diagnostics don't tend to run a lot slower than rated.

Tests like DST (Drive Short Test) etc.

Yuki Core · Feb 7, 2016

photonboy :

They are benchmark results, which are created by users running them. For GPU and CPU it's a bit slippery, since some of the users overclock their hardware heavily. But for storage devices it's great for finding the fastest average, which includes a lot more than just the drive, but performance throughout different systems, I found a great USB drive this way.

But never mind that, I really would like to find out why others are getting 130-140MB/s (Read,Write,Random combined), while I only get 110MB/s. Not really a big difference, but most users get 130MB/s+ speeds, why can't I?
And for the 7200RPM drive it's 123MB/s to 150-170MB/s.

I wouldn't complain about this too much, but recently games that I run from my HDD are lagging sometimes. :??:

EDIT : Can you specify the Hitachi 4GB model you have?

Yuki Core · Feb 7, 2016

dylanestrada :

I don't know what would be different with HDD's, but according to this image RAID is slower then AHCI.

Intel+X25-M+80GB+SSD+raid+vs+ide+vs+ahci.png

DrRedstone · Feb 7, 2016

dylanestrada :

DrRedstone :

Can't he still set it up?

First of all, this thread is about this person worrying about his hardrives, not about setting up RAID, and second of all you need to have 2 identical drives in order to set up RAID anyway.

Yuki Core · Feb 8, 2016

Here are CrystalDiskMark benchmarks for my HDD's, they seem pretty okay, but if I remember correctly I was pulling up 148MB/s Seq Read speeds on my 7200rpm disk, but I am not sure what has happened. Also it's quite weird that Read and Write speeds are so similar, usually read speed is faster than write.

dylanestrada · Feb 8, 2016

DrRedstone :

dylanestrada :

First of all, this thread is about this person worrying about his hardrives, not about setting up RAID, and second of all you need to have 2 identical drives in order to set up RAID anyway.

Actually, he's worried about the speed of his HDDs.

Using RAID will speed up his hard drives, correct?

I assumed that he had similar hard drives, so my bad there. But because he is concerned with speed, this is a soluble answer.

dylanestrada · Feb 8, 2016

How full are your HDDs?

Yuki Core · Feb 8, 2016

dylanestrada :

You can see it in the picture I posted above, they're +/- halfway full.

Edit: To make it easier on You, 5400RPM = 61% full, 7200RPM = 43% full

dylanestrada · Feb 8, 2016

Do you have Steam or your operating system installed on one, and the rest of your data installed mostly on the other?

DrRedstone · Feb 8, 2016

I just ran User Benchmark Myself, my boot drive did pretty bad (It got 36% and my data drive didn't get tested for some reason) but I've only had it since Christmas, I think it's a bad way to test your HDD, but I don't know an alternative so it could be pretty bad luck and coincidence.

Yuki Core · Feb 9, 2016

dylanestrada :

Both are for data, I have a 250GB SSD for OS. Specifically one is for gaming, other is for media and file storage.

DrRedstone :

Well, can you please post CrystalDiskMark results?

Yuki Core · Mar 24, 2016

I figured that windows default defragment program didn't do such a good job, so I tried a program called "Defraggler", and I found out using Windows Event log that Intel Management Engine Interface was crashing, so I reinstalled that one. I'm not sure which of these did it, but the speed is back!!!

Edit: The speed is back down again, although better than before, and I have 0 ideas of what's causing this... maybe it's just windows. I'm not impressed, and completely clueless.

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