Pc rebooting after 5-10 min of gaming (asus anti surge error)

Thraximus · Feb 12, 2016

i just got a brand new AMD FX-8350 and a ASUS M5A 78L-M/USB3 and my pc started shutting down after about 5-10 min of gaming(with asus anti surge error)but it dosent shut down while watching videos or surfing the web
my other parts are
PSU: Linkworld Brilliant Power 550W ATX (LPK19-35) (5+years old)
RAM: kingston hyper x blue 8gb ddr3 (2.5 yrs old)
GPU: N660 gaming 2gb/oc (gtx 600 chipset) (1.5 yr old)
and a 320 GB HDD
(i didnt have this problem with the amd athlon x2 280 and ASUS M5A 78l-M LX3,and i tried putting these back to check if the psu died but they still work normaly)
(i was searching around the web quite a bit and the most common thing to cause the problem is the PSU but i wanted to be sure since i just spent 250$ on the cpu and mobo and i dont want any unnecesary splurging )
if anyone could shed some light on the matter i would be grateful

Darthutos · Feb 12, 2016

honestly, your no name PSU is getting old, I would have probably start thinking about replacement in a couple of years even if it were a Seasonic/Power Flower/or some other tier 1 PSU. also the anti surge warning from the mobo (I'm assuming that's where it came from) but still...

try reinstall video card driver (newest from nvidia)
try reinstall windows
the above is to eliminate software issues
now to hardware issue

first try update your bios (asus website)
first try clear cmos (bios) (refer to mobo manual)
new cmos battery (refer to mobo)

try memtest -- if fail, memory problem.
try prime95/aida stability test. -- if fail, cpu problem
try furmark --if fail, video card problem.

Thraximus · Feb 12, 2016

Darthutos :

Tnx for the quick reply i'l try what you said and BTW i have the newest bios and graphic drivers
EDIT: oh and if all else passes should i assume its the PSU?

Darthutos · Feb 12, 2016

Yes.

you can download something called OCCT and it will monitor your PSU voltages.
e.g. 3V. 12V 5V and -3 -12 -5V and some other voltages.
run the test and 1. see if they are close to their defaults (if 3V is at 2.9V or 3.1V you are still ok, but if idling at say 2.5V for 3V then you probably got a problem. and 2. when running the OCCT test, does the voltages flutuate?

Thraximus · Feb 12, 2016

Darthutos :

i'l give that a try after reinstalling everything again and doing the test you said,i'l tell you how it goes tnx again

Spectre694 · Feb 12, 2016

Check the voltages 99% chance that one of the rails (12V probably) are surging or dropping because of the GPU load and your ASUS board is shutting down to prevent damage. This isn't a software issue it'll be a hardware problem.

Thraximus · Feb 12, 2016

Darthutos :

ok i ran the OCCT and i'm 99% sure its the psu by now check this out : http://imgur.com/1WOBI3r
and btw i started the test and 15 min in the PSU started getting hot so i turned the test off can i ask the last thing do you think "LC POWER LC600H-12 600W" Or "500W Raidmax RX-500XT" would be able to run my specs without a problem for a few months till i can save up for a high quality one ,and if these 2 wont work can you suggest something that could hold out for a few months (around 40$ if possible)?

GhislainG · Feb 12, 2016

The PSU is not good quality, but voltages can't be that bad.

Thraximus · Feb 12, 2016

GhislainG :

no idea...rly but its very old i'd say 5-7 yrs maybe a bit more even, it does look a bit odd i admit but all of my other components are ether new or new-ish and work perfectly fine

Darthutos · Feb 12, 2016

the OCCT may not be monitoring correctly. go in to bios when the splash pic come up, press the del button or f2 button.
go into something called power monitoring and it will tell you the same thing, see if the figure is like those in occt (the figures are those while idling).

Since you are just buying a bandage while you are saving for a real quality PSU, go with the one that's newer and with a higher wattage. see how many amps are on the 12V (they should tell you on the back/side of your PSU). you want the one with the higher number. (sometime the one that says X00 W may be blowing their own horn and really can't deliver.)

Thraximus · Feb 13, 2016

Darthutos :

the numbers seem normal in the bios (3.3 is 3.28 5 is 5.07 and 12 is 11.87)
could it still be the psu or is it something else?
(i tried playing again,and again after 5 min crash and it started heating up,but it doesn't do that with the old parts)

GhislainG · Feb 13, 2016

Unless the info that I found is incorrect, that PSU provides a single 6-pin (75W) PCI Express connector; therefore it definitely can't deliver 550W. If it did, it would include two 8-pin PCI Express connector. Get a quality 550W PSU and your issue will be resolved. Bear in mind that you were using a 65W TDP CPU and you now use a 125W TDP CPU. Select a tier 3 or better PSU: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html A Tier 1 or Tier 2 is preferred.

Thraximus · Feb 13, 2016

GhislainG :

could you recomend a cheep one that could hold out for a few months cus i'm currently short on money after i got the mobo and processor?(40-50$ MAX)

GhislainG · Feb 13, 2016

Can you provide a link where you'll buy it?

Thraximus · Feb 13, 2016

GhislainG :

well i'm from Serbia so i doubt you would understand it but if you want i can make you a small list of things within my budget

GhislainG · Feb 13, 2016

Provide a list, but for a stable system you need a decent quality PSU.

Thraximus · Feb 13, 2016

GhislainG :

i know i do i just plan on using this for 2-3 months till i have for a higher quality one

there isnt much of a choice here so :

500W Raidmax RX-500XT
600W LC Power LC600H-12 V2.31
550W Rhino RX-550PA
500W MS Industrial MS-500
500W Rhino RX-500PA

and i was thinking of saving up and getting this later 700W Raidmax Vampire Modular RX-700GH 80PLUS GOLD

Darthutos · Feb 13, 2016

the one that you are trying to save up for RAIDMAX isn't a quality brand.
I know you are in Serbia so ... but is it possible to get a Seasonic or Corsair or EVGA? when you have enough money?

Thraximus · Feb 13, 2016

Darthutos :

sure there is Seasonic here so i guess i'l go for that one when the time comes tnx for the tips i rly dont know much about PSU-s
EDIT: oh and witch one of the ones i listed could run my system for a few months?

GhislainG · Feb 13, 2016

Go with the Raidmax RX-500XT. It's the only one that doesn't seem to be an old P4 PSU.

Thraximus · Feb 13, 2016

GhislainG :

ok tnx i'l go buy it later ...didn't know there was so much to PSU-s,gonna read about them for the next time so i don't have problems like this

and i'm glad some of these can support my pc ,if they didn't i wouldn't be able to use it for a month at least

GhislainG · Feb 13, 2016

A PSU is the most important component, but too often people just buy the least expensive one. The LC Power LC600H-12 V2.31 would also meet your requirements; does it cost more or less than the Raidmax RX-500XT? Don't bother with the other 3.

Thraximus · Feb 13, 2016

GhislainG :

its around the same price 1 is 40$ the other is 42$

GhislainG · Feb 13, 2016

The LC Power is active PFC and the Raidmax isn't; if you buy it, then make sure the 115-230V switch is in the correct position. They both are entry-level PSUs well suited to an office PC; none is really better than the other.

Thraximus · Feb 13, 2016

GhislainG :

i'l get the raidmax one for now and in a few months i'm gonna buy a proper one thanks for the help
and hopefully i'l be able to start using my pc in 2 days when i get it

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