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Hi guys, I can play the majority of games quite fine e.g battlefield 4, The witcher, cs go and arma 2-3 seems to sit at around 20-30fps but thats my problem, I wanna play arma smoother and other games at a higher quality I am willing to upgrade my motherboard and cpu so any suggestions would help.

please dont go stupid on the price. i would be willing to spend around £200

Currently i have an amd 860k quad core oc'd to 4.1ghz with a h55 water cooler, Radeon r9 270x gpu, corsair cx500 psu and a Gigabyte g2a-f2a88xm-ds2 motherboard.

 
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I'd recommend running two R9 390s in crossfire

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I would consider getting another R9 270x and running them in crossfire, if you can.
I google your motherboard and It seemed like it has only 1 pciex16 alot, so crossfire might be out the window
The best 200$ card(not sure how much it would cost in £s) is the R9 380 4gb, but polaris and pascal are coming so if you can't do crossfire, I'd just wait for the new cards.

Also, what's your power supply?
 
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But is it my gpu causing the problem? i assumed most of my problems could have been coming from cpu and motherboard? gpu always seem'd decent to me.. I don't have a problem with any other game it just seem's to be Arma which are cpu hoggers
 
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The main bottleneck in good optimized games will be the GPU, the CPU isnt stellar but isnt worth the upgrade until you go a gtx970/r9 390 or above
Your board DOES NOT support corssifre, supports dual graphics that is APU+discrete GPU working together, which only works in low end GPUs anyway and your is above that
Your CPU is decently overclocked, a gtx960 or a r9 380 (go for the 4gb variants) will give you a preety good FPS boost in all games and enable more settings than you can use now
Upgrading the CPU noticebly would mean you going for AMD AM3+ socket or intel, either way you would also need a new mobo, extra money that wouldnt bring any benefit if you keep that CPU...


TLDR: Upgrade the GPU to a r9 390/gtx 960 (4gb) OR if you have lots of money, get a non-k i5 skylake, a z170 board and OC it PLUS one of the GPUs I said before, dont upgrade the CPU until you get a better GPU (Yes I know newer BIOS from z170 wont allow non-k OC but you can get older versions and use them)

EDIT: Arma is a badly otpimzied game, most games like fallout or rise of the tomb raider wont tax the CPU that heavily, thats one case where the problem IS the game
 
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Would me upgrading my gpu to the ones stated create a decent increase? I'm getting around 25fps in small cities on Arma 3 I wouldn't wanna spend 150-180 on a gtx 960 to gain a small amount
 
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You'd see a 33% increase in most games, including Arma 3. I would still just wait for polaris/pascal though, if I were you.
The 380 is quite a bit more powerful than the 960, it's honestly not worth the price to upgrade to the 960.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXaWUuK-Tzk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whNU_Adsr_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESeFXwGfBsI

I messed up the original reply, so here's a normal one.
 
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+1 Would be better to save up money and do an upgrade at the end of this year or beginning of next. Prices should go down in both Intel and AMD offerings once Zen releases (hopefully Q4 this year). Intel for years has had a premium price on their high end processors that has carried down though even their i5 line as they haven't really had major competition (especially in gaming computers). Zen (although it will still be behind new top tier i7s in IPC) will bring AMD back into direct competition with Intel in high end processors. Competition will drive down the prices of all the new processors as well as older offerings when this happens. Save up more money, buy when prices go down and you will have the best upgrade possible.
 
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+1 back atcha ;) though only time will tell, I have high hopes for Zen, but also try and look at it realistically - AMD has been over hyping everything they have come out with CPUs and GPUs for a few years now...and to me, they know they are over hyping everything.
 
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Although I build systems all the time with AMD processors and GPUs and think they are quality parts I do agree that AMD likes to over-hype their upcoming releases and it only hurts them if the product doesn't live up to the hype. One that jumps to mind right away is the R9 390 which is basically a 290 with more RAM.

AMD risked a lot with Bulldozer, they gambled on more cores with weaker IPC would be better than fewer cores running higher IPC. That gamble didn't pay off. There were too many applications that still only utilized a single core and the API the FX had to compete using (DX 11) heavily favors single core performance. Had DX 12 come out a couple years ago, had programs been quicker to become multi-threaded the FX may have competed better against Intel (and maybe we would even have Excavator FX processors) but that just didn't happen quickly enough to save the FX line. Rather than spend a bunch of money in a marginal upgrade from Piledriver to Excavator FX AMD focused on the upgrade to Zen and pushing the current Piledriver FX to its limits.

That is where I actually have a lot of hope for the Zen processors. AMD learned their lesson and focused on IPC with Zen. If they deliver on 40% increased IPC over Excavator for Zen then it will be a huge leap forward for AMD. If AMD compensates (for still being behind Kaby Lake in IPC) with higher clock speeds and more cores while staying at a competitive price point then Intel will have to lower its prices to stay competitive as well. If Zen is roughly equal to Haswell you can imagine a 8 core 16 thread Haswell clocked as close to 4Ghz as possible competing very well against a 4 core 8 thread Skylake or Kaby Lake processor. Zen will also have the benefit of DDR4 RAM that Haswell doesn't have. If AMD actually delivers it will be great for us all as it will force both AMD and Intel to lower prices through competition. Lets just hope the hype lives up to the final product this time ;)
 
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