Need opinions for this PC Build (For Gaming, Video Editing, Etc)

tdailey

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CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($369.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.60 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI X99A GAMING 7 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.95 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Superclocked Video Card ($669.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT H440 (White/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1937.41
 
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I'd say a 250GB is the minimum size with the programs you're going to be running on a production & gaming rig. I'd honestly recommend a 500GB tho, with the bloat of editing software and gaming you'll likely run real close to the 250GB mark pretty fast. While I don't fill my 512GB I do peek over the 250GB size.

As for the HDD, a 3TB would be a good size. The Red lines are good, but they're intended for NAS operation so you're paying a premium price for what is just a storage drive for your purposes. The HGST Desktstar are a good line up, with a very good failure rate but they can also get a bit pricey. If you want a drive with a good warranty, the WD blacks will run you a bit less than the Reds and be just fine for what you're doing...

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I would take bigger drives, ssd and HDD. Because for gaming you benefit from the SSD speed and for videos 1 TB is not so much. I also use the i7-5820k for video editing and I am very happy with it.
 

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Well I have about 4 External HDD so I'm not too worried about storage
 
With Tom on this, bigger SSD for scratch files would be nice tho not a huge deal, but a larger capacity HDD for storage would be very good idea. Video editing is going to eat up a ton of room on your HDD and unless your external is thunderbolt 2/USB 3.1 your going to hate life trying to use it as anything other than backup or cold storage.

Also you don't list the model number of the PSU you're getting, but I'd check it against this list as reference for models. Series like the G1 were not very good.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

And question for the build. Are you planning on overclocking? The cpu cooler you chose is a very good one, have one myself, but it is a MASSIVE beast of a cooler, much heavier than most coolers and overkill if you don't intend on pushing your system.
 

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Thanks for replying,

Here is the link to the PSU, it is G2 series

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Crossfire-Warranty-220-G2-0850-XR/dp/B00IKDETOC/ref=zg_bs_1161760_5

As for SSD, how big do you guys suggest cause SSD's aren't exactly cheap I was thinking about the 500GB Samsung 850 EVo which is only about $40 more, but not sure about going up to 1 or 2 TB

I was considering going up to 3TB for the HDD though, saw that the 3TB Red HDD from WD had good reviews so definitely a consideration

and yes I do plan on overclocking and initially I was going to go with liquid cooling, but after seeing both sides of the spectrum with liquid & air cooling I figured I would be taking the safer route with the NH-D15 especially as it is very close on par to some of the high end liquid coolers. I am aware of the size, but as I said before I plan on overclocking the i7-5820K.
 
I'd say a 250GB is the minimum size with the programs you're going to be running on a production & gaming rig. I'd honestly recommend a 500GB tho, with the bloat of editing software and gaming you'll likely run real close to the 250GB mark pretty fast. While I don't fill my 512GB I do peek over the 250GB size.

As for the HDD, a 3TB would be a good size. The Red lines are good, but they're intended for NAS operation so you're paying a premium price for what is just a storage drive for your purposes. The HGST Desktstar are a good line up, with a very good failure rate but they can also get a bit pricey. If you want a drive with a good warranty, the WD blacks will run you a bit less than the Reds and be just fine for what you're doing. The basic Seagate desktop series will get you a 3Tb drive without breaking the bank but they'll have the same 2yr warranty of the WD Blue you have in your original posting.

As for the cooler, yeah that will give you a good solid cooler for OCing without getting loud. Something to keep in mind however is heights. That cooler is 165mm in stock height. With you're RAM choice you'll be needing to raise the fan up 8-9mm to get clearance. This is going to raise the height of your cooler to 173-174mm. Thats within the 180mm your case supports, but its something to keep in mind.

Last thing with the case you picked out. If you intend on using the SSD tray mount thats at the bottom of the motherboard area, consider getting a sata power extension cable. Something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400046&cm_re=sata_extension_cable-_-12-400-046-_-Product
That tray sits almost flush with the metal, so while SATA data cables plug in without an issue, the power cable can be a problem. Most PSU cables have the power connector at a right angle to the cabling, this forces the SSD drive to pop up a bit from the tray and puts a strain on the power/data connector on the drive. An extension cable goes straight in without causing that strain on the drive.
 
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hyfurd2112

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Keep in mind the bigger the size of the hard drive, 1tb, 2tb, 3tb, 4tb, and 6tb, there is a greater chance of hard drive failure. 6tb hard drives have up to 3 platters which increases the probability of failing. I would recommend a 4x2tb RAID setup. This way you get redundancy and speed.
 


Are there any credible sources for a higher failure rate on the 6TB vs 1TB drives? I haven't looked in to much of the 6TB drives since they're outside the price range of what most people I know are looking to spend.
 

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Thanks for all the advice I think I'm going to move up to the 500GB SSD as well as the 3TB HDD (Looking as of now), as for everything else do you have any other thoughts on the build?
 

hyfurd2112

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Was quite some time ago, but I do remember it.


 


Only thing that pops to mind is
1. You do have an OS right? Its not listed on your build.
2. I'd check the editing programs and compatibility with the video card. Its a very slim chance there's any issue, but some editing programs have strict compatibility listings for program features.

Other than that, and personal preference (I prefer asus to msi for boards, msi to evga on gpu) I'd say your build looks good.
 

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Everything seems perfect. Although for the case Phanteks is releasing their new Eclipse P400 series that start at only 70 USD and include a PSU basement, wire management, case fan filters!, RGB lighting and much more! Other than that I think it was a wise decision to move up to 500gb ssd. I have a 256gb and I am trying to keep it from being full.
 

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Oops, didn't see that massive Noctua NH-D15 here. Anyways, You could essentially spend the same getting a H100i or some equivalent all in one loop and the hanteks eclipse P400. That's what I recommend. :)
 
The i series software is a bit twitchy, tho the cooler is pretty good. I'd say go for a Kraken X61 instead, installing it is so much easier than the Corsair series. The Eclipse has a weird config, it only supports two 3.5 drives stock which kinda sucks. Having to buy extra support for more drives is always a chincy move on manufactures. Also the exterior screw points for expansions cards always screams of a cheaply made case.
 

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Yes, all these things are something one should keep in mind but based on what the OP was saying (one SSD and one HDD) the 2 mounting brackets for ssds and 2 for the hdds should not be a problem. I do agree with you and for people that need a whole buncha drives in their system should go for a full atx tower anyways.
 

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So basically the two recommendations are a full ATX tower and a Kraken X61.

I was actually thinking of the Kraken in the beginning, but I just want to be on the safe side. I know the AIO's are pretty safe, but with the NH-D15 being leak proof and almost on par with the Kraken I figure the Noctua is a better bet, its cheaper too.
 

hyfurd2112

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Yep, everything looks good. If you are only going to do light to moderate editing and more gaming focused, I recommend the i7 6700k. You will get more performance per core and a lower tdp resulting in a less beefier cooler required. The noctua dh 15 will suit this perfectly.
 

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I was considering the i7-6700K, but the more cores with the i7-5820K I heard can really benefit with rendering and multiple applications taking place, also with OC'ing the 5820K can get up to a solid performance. Have you had any personal experience with the i7-6700K by chance?
 


Unless you need a crap ton of room for drives or quad SLI, or something else that needs a lot of internal room I would be really hesitant to recommend a full tower. They're huge, heavy and really not needed as much anymore with the high capacities of drives.

Having worked with both the X61 and the NH-D15 its hard to pick an absolute. The X61 or the D15 will fit just fine in that case. The one big downside to the D15 is the weight and size of the beast, but if you're not going to be moving your case around a lot it doesn't really matter. Both the D15 and the x61 are whisper quiet but I think the D15 wins out with the acoustics of the H440 case. Its not bad by any means, but the x61 I installed in the H440 for a friend had a slight echo of fan noise.

As for the 6700k vs 5820k... if your primary focus is rendering, the 5820k is generally going to make all your projects happier. If your primary is gaming, the 6700k is going to out perform. The absolute best thing you can do is look at the programs you know you're going to run the most and see if they benefit from more cores, higher speed, or single/multi threaded workloads. If the bulk of the programs you want to run don't benefit from more than 4 cores, there's no point to the 5820k.
 

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Yes you are right, the more cores will help in rendering and encoding. Software that utilize more cores efficiently include professional software like Adobe CC, Maya, and just about any rendering programs. That is why there are 72 core rendering workstations that cost a lot of money. I have not had any personal experience with the i7 6700k. By getting the x99 board that is compatible with the 5920k you leave yourself with an upgrade path for the i7 5960x or any other 2011 v3 socket processor that comes out.
 


Not to mention the love affair that Adobe and Solidworks have with RAM. Availability to run 64GB of RAM vs 32GB is a hard thing to passup.
 

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Well I mostly use Sony Vegas for video editing, honestly the i7-5820K & i7-6700K have been up for much debate and I've spent countless hours looking at reviews and comparisons for both. The only thing that has me leaning more towards the i7-5820K is the 2 extra cores, but again the i7-6700K has better performance via single core. What do you guys suggest if I am both recording, editing, and rendering gameplay. I know 'hyfurd2112' said the i7-6700K is good for moderate performance with the subjects (recording, editing, rendering). so does this mean,

Gaming: i7-6700k > i7-5820K
Applications: i7-5820k > i7-6700K