i5 6600k + NZXT Kraken x61 or i7 6700k with H440?

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Hi guys,
I need some help deciding what CPU to buy.
As it stands i'm planning to buy a Gigabyte GTX 980ti, an i5 6600k which I will OC to 4.6ghz and a Kraken x61 CLC.
I'm aware of the similar performance and the addition of hyperthreading on the i7, however I was wondering whether or not I would get similar temps to the kraken x61 with an OC 6600k with just an i7 6700k and a stock intel fan.
This is worrying for me given the limited airflow in the H440 (Old version).
Help pls! xD

TLDR: Is it worth the extra money for the i7 6700k and will it run at similar temps to an OC i5 6600k @ 4.6ghz.
 
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I know I'm replying so late, but came across thjs today so. The i7 6700K doesn't come with a stock cooler, so you would have to purchase a separate cooler. Any of the 6th generation CPU doesn't come with a stock cooler. And I got the same case myself, building a rig, going for the H100i GTX, though in terms of noise, the Noctua NHD15 does a far better job, but it weighs 1.3 Kg, that's a big no no to me, if you purchase that cooler, don't touch your case after you've installed it, or it can easily take the Mobo off. I'm ready to sacrifice my comfort levels for noise, but I can't sacrifice my Mobo. Anywyas, that's all I can say, if you've already purchased a cooler, please let me know which one and what type of performance are you...
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Here's the short answer: Get an i7 6700k and then get the best cooler you can get with the rest of your budget. If you can't cough up the extra 30 bucks for the better cooler, then just get the better cpu and use the stock fan until you can get a better cooler. Also the H440 is definitely not the best or cheapest case you can get, so I would suggest to look for another case (perhaps Fractal Design or Phanteks) and get the i7 and a better cpu.
Long answer: Any, and I mean ANY, closed loop cooler will preform about the same as a high end air cooler (like the Noctua NH-D15 or Phanteks PH-TC14PE, many other options too like Rajintek). The only advantage CLC has on air cooling is you can place the radiator kind of wherever you like. However an air cooler will be much much quieter than any CLC (Both because of the crappy pumps they put in these, and because the fans need to run faster to push air through the rad) and will also last you for much much much longer because the only thing that can break there are the fans, which run slower on air coolers anyway so won't wear as much, and the tower itself can only break if you hit it with a hammer, and even then it won't be easy.
TL;DR: Don't get a closed loop water cooler, get either an air cooler, or (if you have an extra 500 bucks lying around and the time to build it :) ) a custom watercooling loop.
 
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And BTW before you ask, yes I do use a CLC, and that purchase was definitely one of the bigger mistakes I made with my build. Learn from my mistake, and don't go CLC. Also before you ask, ;) the reason all the youtube tech channels are using CLCs is because they get paid to use them, and they only use these for the two minutes that they are featured in the video. And the reason a lot of other people are using CLC is because of the admittedly absolute genius marketing the manufacturers have done.
 
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The problem for me is that I don't want to put myself through building a custom water cooling loop because lets be honest I don't trust myself one bit with water and electronics.
The other issue is that I live in AUS and the 6700k is a good 200 dollars more expensive, and it essentially works out around 40$ more expensive for the 6700k, and that'd be using a stock cooler in a case starved of air. Do you have any idea on the approximated temps I could expect to see?
 
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So it comes out 40 bucks (AUD I assume) more to go with the stock cooler. Let's say you add an extra ~40 AUD for something like the Hyper 212 Evo, and the CPU will last you probably an extra year. Worthwhile investment IMO. And about the case being air-starved, yes there is a problem with airflow with the h440, however three front fans should push enough air through the drive cages that barely heat it up. I think you should expect fine temps with the Hyper 212 even in an h440, probably around 30-40 idle and then ~60-70 while heavily used. You should only be worried about temps if you're planning to overclock (are you?) or if you have an extremely rare case where the CPU will not be able to keep cool.
So a few follow up questions: 1. Must you use the h440, or can you switch to a different case? I understand it looks pretty cool but it's an expensive case with not too much to offer, and there are many cases the look better IMO, cost less, and are more effective. If you have to use the h440 then forget about this question.
2. Are you planning to overclock?
3. What PSU do you have/are you planning to buy?
 
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Yes, as previously stated (several times) I plan to overclock both my GPU and CPU. With a cooler like the 212 evo the CPU will still probably lurk around the 80c mark.
I have the H440 as a leftover case free off a friend.
2. I'm overclocking my 980ti by about 130 core with 130 power limit, and my i5 6600k to 4.6ghz at 1.35 voltage
3. I have an 850w EVGA supernova PSU.
 
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As for your second point: do you already have the CPU? How do you know how it overclocks? Same question for your GPU. And no, you will not be able to get away with 1.35 volts with the hyper 212, however the 6700k is faster, and will probably have about the same performance per core at stock speed as the 6600k will have at 4.6 ghz.
But I am worried that you might think you can just dial in settings, and that is how you overclock. Overclocking is a long process of finding exactly what your components can do, and you cannot know before trying how the component will overclock. Search the term "Silicone lottery" if I'm right and that is what you think. If I am wrong, then I am sorry and please understand that I don't know what you know or don't know and I'm just trying to help.
 
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I know I'm replying so late, but came across thjs today so. The i7 6700K doesn't come with a stock cooler, so you would have to purchase a separate cooler. Any of the 6th generation CPU doesn't come with a stock cooler. And I got the same case myself, building a rig, going for the H100i GTX, though in terms of noise, the Noctua NHD15 does a far better job, but it weighs 1.3 Kg, that's a big no no to me, if you purchase that cooler, don't touch your case after you've installed it, or it can easily take the Mobo off. I'm ready to sacrifice my comfort levels for noise, but I can't sacrifice my Mobo. Anywyas, that's all I can say, if you've already purchased a cooler, please let me know which one and what type of performance are you getting. And if you want quiter performance, you should go with a 280mm radiator instead of 240.
You're welcome :D
 
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Ye, decided on the Kraken x61 a while ago, but since the other guy posted literally nothing relevant, imma give you best answer <3

 
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Whats your thoughts on the Kraken x61? Im thinking of getting one so would appreciate your opinion.
Thanks,
 
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