[build] entry lvl gaming pc for my friend.

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Hello, thanks for viewing this post !
And sorry for any bad grammar i am writing this on an ipad and my english is not my main language.

So ive been planning to build an entry lvl gaming pc for my friend, he has been using a simple laptop up until now and he really needs to upgrade. Now he has an optiflex 755 laying around wich i need to check for what parts i can re-use i am 100% sure that i can re use the hdd though with windows already installed on it. So i dont need to buy either of those. For a case i will be using a cooler master n300 kkn1 as it is only 39 euros for me. For processor i wil be checking his optiflex if it is a decent one , if it is not i will probably go for a intel celeron g1840 (40-50 euros) or a intel pentium g3258(70 euros). As for a gpu im still trying to decide wether to go for a gt 730 (50-70 euros) or a gtx 750 ti (130 euros)

As for a motherboard and psu i need some help, i need some cheap but reliable ones.

This pc will mainly be used for, (edit) csgo at 1920x1080 , minecraft and school work and watching videos. And id like to keep the gpu and processor intel and nvidea becouse i am used to working with those and im looking for some upgradeabillity in the future.

Any tips on the parts i picked ? Or just comments , also any tips for a psu or motherboard are more then welcome

Thanks alot!
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PSU is not the best out there, but it will do the job for a PC like this, if you have to invest you will have to spend at least 80 euro on a psu, which is as much as the CPU which in my eyes is not required. When it comes to CPUs, it is good, you either go for a Celeron (which is a huge downgrade, and saves you only 20 euro) or you go for this one, or you spend 50 euros more and go for i3-6100. Personally I would go for i3-6100 because I know it can handle every game but if you can't afford it, stick with the g4400 it is the second best option.
If its minecraft and school work and videos I would suggest a slightly different path - i3-6100 (way better than those poor pentiums also provides great upgradability road in the future) paired with 2x4gb DDR4 ram and a h110 board. Use the integrated GPU of the i3-6100 (hd530), good performer especially for those tasks. This way you can get a better GPU in the future if required and you will get a better CPU than those poor pentiums which is mandatory in my opinion.
 

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Nice suggestion,
buy a good motherboard. So that in future you can use it easily.
Gtx 750 ti is better than 730.

 

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Seems that i mistyped something , it will also be used for csgo at 1920x1080 wich makes having a gpu quite important i think, thanks for the advice though ! I really appriciate any bit of help.
 
Yeah if you add csgo at 1920x1080 then you will need the GPU. However at 1920x1080 people with the HD530 (albeit with i5 instead of i3 but it should be close) on min settings hit the 120 FPS mark on average, so i3-6100 with hd530 in full hd on min will definitely push 80FPS. Not sure if that is enough however.
 

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You can probably still reuse the case to keep the cost down, and if you are changing the processor it has to be checked for the compatibility of the socket, and even then some OEMs have their motherboards locked to certain processors, making it pointless.

Go for the 750ti, you won't regret it.

As for the PSU, the Basiq 430 is pretty decent for cheap.
 

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I think im still gonna go for the pentium or celeron then, i think they use thesame socket as the i3-6100 right ?
So i might look into upgrading his pc in the future , right now i think the gpu power would serve him better.

Thanks for the advice though was a really good suggestion !
 
Nah, those are haswell, if you want to go for the same socket you will have to look into skylake G4400/4500 for pentium or G3900/3920 for celeron (mind you the pentium comes with hd530 the celeron with hd510 not that it matters). But if you go that way you will have to spend $60 on the cpu and $50 on the board.
 

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Keeping the case will probably not happen as it is an optiplex mini, i think that there is no place for a gpu.
And yeah the 750 ti is a perfect entry level gpu isnt it, i guess the deciding factor is gonna be how much the total of the other parts cost and if it leaves me enoug room to go for the 750 ti (130 euros) or the 730 for only (50-70 euros)

Looks like a nice psu, shame that i cant find any shop that sells them in belgium though.

Great advice i really appriciate it ! Thanks for the help ^^
 

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Im not quite that familiar with using integrated graphics , but how much of a diffrence is there between using the gt 730 vs the hd530 ? It does seem like a very good suggestion. But i have no knowledge at all about integrated gpu are there any diffrences , or are they basicly thesame ?

Thanks already i really appriciate it !
 
Well the integrated GPUs are generally slower, but if you go for skylake, the new intel integrated gpus are pretty good (hd530 in this case). It can perform close to the gt 730. The gt 730 will give you around 90-110 fps, while the hd530 will give you 70-90. You see the performance of the gt730 is not that huge, that's why either get a G4400/4500 and use the integrated GPU or get a 750ti. The money on the gt 730 will not be worth it in my eyes.
 

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Mhh sounds really good , the 730 does look like it wouldnt really be worth the money, in comparison with the upgradeability that comes with using the i3-6100. Im gonna put together a pcpartpicker list with all the parts and the prices , ill reply it to you in this thread so you can take a look if thats okay for you :D
 

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Forget the pcpartpicker list im just gonna do it like this:

Processor =G4400 = 80 euros
Case = cooler master n300 kkn1 = 39 euros
Ram = kingston hyperx 8gb ddr3-1600= 38 euros
Psu= corsair vs series vs350= 42 euros
Mobo=
Hdd= already have one
Os= already have one
Wifi adapter =asus pce-n15= 25 euros
Monitor= already have one
Optical drive = already have one

Any comment ?
 
You need DDR4 ram, also use 2x4gb (for dual channel) kingston has hyperx 2x4gb ddr4 2133mhz for around 40 euro (which is pretty much the same price but is faster). Also get a larger PSU, at least 450W, even 550W would be good for better future upgradability, not to mention prices do not differ that much. As for motherboard the Asrock h110 HDV is a great DDR4 board and is quite cheap, around the 50-60 euro mark.
 

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Processor= g4400= 80 euros
Case= cooler n300 kkn1=39 euros
Ram= Kingston hyperxfury 2x4 2133mhz = 50 euros
Psu=Xilence performance c xp500=40 euros = https://www.alternate.be/Xilence/Performance-C-XP500-500-Watt-voeding/html/product/1165308?tk=7&lk=6222
Mobo=Asrock h110 hdv = 82 euros
Hdd= have one
Os= already have one
Wifi adapter=asus pce -n15= 25 euros
Monitor=already have one
Optical drive =have one

Seems like a good 316 euro build ?

Is the processor good ? You mentioned a few other cpus , wich one do you think would fit the build best, also do you think the psu is good ?

And really thanks for the help man! Really appriciate it






 
PSU is not the best out there, but it will do the job for a PC like this, if you have to invest you will have to spend at least 80 euro on a psu, which is as much as the CPU which in my eyes is not required. When it comes to CPUs, it is good, you either go for a Celeron (which is a huge downgrade, and saves you only 20 euro) or you go for this one, or you spend 50 euros more and go for i3-6100. Personally I would go for i3-6100 because I know it can handle every game but if you can't afford it, stick with the g4400 it is the second best option.
 
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Allright thanks man ! It really helped ! And it will depend on my friend if i get him the i3 or the g4400 ill show him the benifits though, i think thats it then. Again really thanks for the help ill update this post once in order the parts and build it (might take a while) ill qoute you in it in this post so you can see it when its finished

Thanks alot man !
 
Sure no problems. Just to say, the i3 itself is 400Mhz faster and has 2 extra logical threads WHICH HELP A LOT and better integrated GPU. The i3 has HD 530 the G4400 has HD 510 which is way weaker, if you want a celeron with HD 530 then you need G4500 BUT it costs only 15 euro less than the i3 and STILL is WAY weaker. Just tell your friend "trust me on this, spend 20-30 euro more, this will extend the life of your PC by at least 2 years".