Will this computer work for streaming WoW and LoL on max settings and will there be any issues building it? Specs: MSI Z17

WoefulWolf

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Will this computer work for streaming WoW and LoL on max settings and will there be any issues building it?

Specs:
MSI Z170-A PRO LGA 1151 Intel Z170 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard - $80

XFX Radeon R9 390 DirectX 12 R9-390P-8256 8GB 512-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support Double Dissipation XXX OC Video Card - $300

Seagate 1TB Desktop HDD SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive - $50

Crucial 8GB Single DDR4 2133 MT/s (PC4-17000) CL15 DR x8 Unbuffered DIMM 288-Pin Desktop Memory - $40

Intel Boxed Core I5-6400 FC-LGA14C 2.70 Ghz 6 M Processor Cache 4 LGA 1151 -$ 170

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO fan - $30

Cooler Master HAF 912 - Mid Tower Computer Case -$60

EVGA SuperNOVA 650 G1 80+ GOLD, 650W Power Supply -$70

Crucial BX200 240GB SATA 2.5 Inch Internal Solid State Drive -$65

Any tips?
 

Kaisa_Sosa

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Your computer will be capable of running the games at high/max textures and quality with no problems.

However when you stream games it is heavily CPU intensive meaning that you could potentially notice some stuttering in game. I would recommend upgrading your CPU to one with hyper threading, such as the i7-6700k. Furthermore, you would most likely stream at 1080p, 30fps so an upgrade to 16GB of RAM would eliminate any problems with steaming and losing frames for the viewers
 
For streaming WoW and LoL you should be okay. They're both games that only use 1-2 CPU cores, and you have 2 extra for streaming.
But you may have to manually assign core affinities so the streaming software isn't using the same cores as WoW and LoL. https://bitsum.com/processlasso/

I assume the reason you're getting a z170 board but a non-k Skylake CPU is because you know you can overclock the locked skylakes with them. But if that's not why, then you don't need a z170 board, an h110 will run it the same.

You're getting kind of a weak CPU though, if you get a 6500 or 6600(k or no k) you'd be better off, as the price difference isn't that big the performance will be fairly significant.

You don't need an aftermarket cooler like the 212 evo unless you're going to overclock.

I think the PSU you listed is good, but it actually might not be, and i'm not sure if they make them anymore so i'm curious where you're getting yours.
 

WoefulWolf

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@james mason. The person above you recommended the i7 cpu. Is that necessary? Its considerably more expensive. Which motherboard and cpu combination do you personally recommend? With links or the full name, because i get confused with all the different types. This will be the first pc ive ever configured myself, so im a bit of a noob, sorry haha. Also, how do i overclock and what are the benefits? And this is the link to the psu https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00K85X2AW/ref=ox_sc_act_image_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
 


Necessary, no.

What's your actual budget for the system, and what else do you need?

 

WoefulWolf

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Feb 23, 2016
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I didnt mean to select the best solution.. sorry. Anyways, so the gtx 960 and the i7, along with 16gb of ram. What motherboard should i get? Id like to be around $850 or so budget wise.
 
You can't afford an i7 and you don't need one, not for WoW and LoL. For fancier AAA games you'll need more CPU power to stream them, but you can run them just fine. You don't have a great deal of HDD space right away, but you can add a 1TB HDD for only $50-60 later on. The SSD will help you load WoW and LoL faster than most others, but the limited space will prevent you from really being able to record videos.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($55.38 @ Newegg)
Memory: *G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($59.49 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Sandisk Z400s 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($71.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($184.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: *Xigmatek Spirit M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.57 @ Mac Mall)
Optical Drive: *Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive ($12.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $738.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-23 19:13 EST-0500

Building your own computer is easy. Building it takes 2-3 hours, and installing windows takes about 30mins to 45mins, and after that downloading and installing drivers takes another 30-45 mins. After all that, have it download windows updates at night, it may take a 2-4 passes to get them all.

Building a PC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIF43-0mDk4
Installing Windows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zAdwedmj1M

Protip for installing drivers safely, install them one at a time and restart the computer after each install to avoid breaking the OS, which can happen if you try to install them all at once.

Streaming
You can try OBS since it's free:
https://obsproject.com/
And here's how to set it up for local recordings, start at the recommended crf 15, and lower the number for higher quality and higher file size recordings, or raise it for slightly lower quality and smaller file sizes.
https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/how-to-make-high-quality-local-recordings.16/
And to set it up for twitch:
http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/1262922-open-broadcaster-software


edit:

Saw the $850 budget, puts you in range of an i7, which will kinda help with streaming, but not with gameplay.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: *Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($51.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: *G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($59.49 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Sandisk Z400s 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($71.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($184.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: *Xigmatek Spirit M MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: *EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($43.57 @ Mac Mall)
Optical Drive: *Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive ($12.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $869.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-23 19:16 EST-0500
 

WoefulWolf

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What budget cuts can i make off of this? I want to overclock, and the software the motherboard has seems like it would really simplify it for me. Forgive me as i really have little to no idea what im saying.
[PCPartPicker part list](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/K8XC3C) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://pcpartpicker.com/p/K8XC3C/by_merchant/)

 


The second one I listed is basically an already cut down version of that.
If you don't know what overclocking is, don't worry about it, it's not necessary and more often than not just causes more problems for the inexperienced.
 

WoefulWolf

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Alright, i wont worry about overclocking then haha, sounds complicated anyways.
Will the 4gb version of the graphics card, the version of ram i picked, and the k version of the cpu give any extra performance? And will i need the fan because the graphics card is superclocked?
 
The K version is for overclocking, it's basically the same, but they changed a little bit of code that makes it easier to set it to higher Gigahertz. You also need a more expensive motherboard. The ram you listed isn't that much better than the one I listed, and it's price increase is roughly equivalent to how much better it is. The 4GB card will help with higher quality textures, but only on a select few games with really high quality texture options, and even though, your GPU isn't really powerful enough to run those types of games at higher settings anyways, hence why the i7 can be a downside.


I'll stress this again, the i7 doesn't really help with streaming all that much, it will help with video editing if you want to cut videos together for Youtube or whatever. The i5 can still do that, but just slower. If your time is so valuable that you need to do it faster (i.e. because it's your job) than the i7 is the smarter buy.

You can even stream with an i3 and 4GBs of ram if you really want to, you just have to make some minor quality tradeoffs.
 

WoefulWolf

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So, if i were to increase the budget to $900 now, wanted to stream WoW and LoL at max settings with 60+fps, and wanted a better case for easier building, as this is my first time, give me your best and final recommendations and we will consider this case closed. :) i really appreciate all your help, ive learned a lot.
 
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($51.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($59.49 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($63.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 380 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive ($12.89 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $909.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-24 13:11 EST-0500

A smidge over 900, but the r9-380 is about 15% better than gtx 960. This won't have any problems maxing WoW and LoL, leaves you with plenty of power for streaming, but sacrifices higher performance in more modern games somewhat for this build.
The case is highly recommended, easy cable management, nothing to fancy.
You can't OC, but that's out of your budget really anyways, would cost another 200-300 to get a system good for OCing.
You have kind of limited HDD space starting out, but it will be enough for WoW and LoL and the OS, as long as you aren't recording gameplay for youtube, because you don't have the storage space for it, you'll be fine.
You can easily pop in a 1TB hard drive later on if you need the storage as well, or if you even already have it in your old computer you can format it and reuse it.
 
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