AMD X4 860k
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No, everything else being equal, an i3 would be better. Even the G3258 outperforms the 860k. And even overclocked, a G3258 can't match the performance of an i3, except for maybe a handful of cases that are extremely dependent on single threaded performance. I'm talking purely about gaming here.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-b81-cheap-overclocking,3888-3.html
That being said, the 860k + R9 390 may very well outperform an i3 + R9 380. But I don't think you'll be getting the full performance out of the 390.
Ok I'm aware of it getting more fps
But the I3 and G3258 won't provide the best smooth gameplay . With some raw horsepower left for multitasking .
But the X4 860K is a quad core meaning it will be better for future games rather than dual cores
So I honestly think you should try the graphics card in your system and if your not getting the performance you like then upgrade the processor . But you'll probably be good
But the I3 and G3258 won't provide the best smooth gameplay . With some raw horsepower left for multitasking .
But the X4 860K is a quad core meaning it will be better for future games rather than dual cores
So I honestly think you should try the graphics card in your system and if your not getting the performance you like then upgrade the processor . But you'll probably be good
If you look at 95th percentile frame times in the link in my previous post, you'll see that the i3 typically performs as good or better than the X4 750k, meaning it offers both higher average fps and smoother gameplay. As far as multitasking goes, I don't see the 860k doing any better than the i3. And to be honest, I think expecting good multitasking when buying such a budget chip may be asking a bit much.
If the 4 threads of the i3 are outperforming the 4 threads of the 860k now, I don't see why that would change in the future. And if you're trying to build a future proof build, you probably shouldn't be buying a $75 CPU, especially one that doesn't offer any upgrade path.
If the 4 threads of the i3 are outperforming the 4 threads of the 860k now, I don't see why that would change in the future. And if you're trying to build a future proof build, you probably shouldn't be buying a $75 CPU, especially one that doesn't offer any upgrade path.
Many people say future proofing or upgradability options . As it will just end up costing more .
Many games don't run well on dual cores or won't even run . Having the extra cores will help in multitasking and won't be obsolete in a few years . It doesn't matter if the processor gets better fps if it's stuttering . Higher fps doesn't mean no stutter . No sense of having better fps if the cpu can't run smooth without stuttering.
Many games don't run well on dual cores or won't even run . Having the extra cores will help in multitasking and won't be obsolete in a few years . It doesn't matter if the processor gets better fps if it's stuttering . Higher fps doesn't mean no stutter . No sense of having better fps if the cpu can't run smooth without stuttering.
First off, stuttering corresponds to long frame times, which I addressed when I pointed out that the 95th percentile frame times are the same or better for an i3 than a 860k.
Secondly, the only reason I brought up future-proofing/upgradability is because you claimed that 860k will be a better option for the future. I'm pointing out how, if you're concerned about the future, an i3 will actually be a better option. And we've already established that it's a better option if you're concerned about the present. Of course, the downside is that it costs more.
Finally, as far as games are concerned, they only see how many threads you have. The OS sees a 4-threaded CPU, and that's what the game sees. Of course, 4 physical cores are better (e.g. i5), but Intel's massively better per-core performance is more than enough for a 2C/4T i3 to beat an a quad core 860k.
If you're arguing that the 860k is better value for money, that's one thing. But it seems like you're claiming that it's a better CPU, and if that's the case, you're objectively wrong.
Secondly, the only reason I brought up future-proofing/upgradability is because you claimed that 860k will be a better option for the future. I'm pointing out how, if you're concerned about the future, an i3 will actually be a better option. And we've already established that it's a better option if you're concerned about the present. Of course, the downside is that it costs more.
Finally, as far as games are concerned, they only see how many threads you have. The OS sees a 4-threaded CPU, and that's what the game sees. Of course, 4 physical cores are better (e.g. i5), but Intel's massively better per-core performance is more than enough for a 2C/4T i3 to beat an a quad core 860k.
If you're arguing that the 860k is better value for money, that's one thing. But it seems like you're claiming that it's a better CPU, and if that's the case, you're objectively wrong.
The AMD chips offer for cores which means it will be better for games a lot of games requiring at least four course not for threads. try and go ahead and run and i3 on FarCry primal fallout 4 and Grand Theft Auto 5 now that CPU will be 100% usage so that being said there will be no head room to multitask in that. With that being said he already owns the four core and the check will be enough more than enough the i3 will not be better for the future there is no upgrading in the future otherwise it would cost more
Here is a benchmark showing an i3 hugely outperforming an 860k in Fallout 4, in both average and minimum frames (which correspond to stuttering):
http://www.techspot.com/review/1089-fallout-4-benchmarks/page5.html
You have provided no evidence to suggest that the 860k would be a better multitasker. I don't see any reason why an i3 would provide better gaming performance, and yet be less able to multitask while gaming. But even if the 860k is the better multitasker, what does that really matter? If you're building a gaming rig, you should look at gaming performance, and the i3 wins.
Lastly, where did the OP say he already owns the 860k?
I think I'm done here. I've provided benchmarks to support my claims, and yet you continue to deny them without a shred of evidence. Either you're a troll or just incredibly stubborn, either way there's no point in continuing.
http://www.techspot.com/review/1089-fallout-4-benchmarks/page5.html
You have provided no evidence to suggest that the 860k would be a better multitasker. I don't see any reason why an i3 would provide better gaming performance, and yet be less able to multitask while gaming. But even if the 860k is the better multitasker, what does that really matter? If you're building a gaming rig, you should look at gaming performance, and the i3 wins.
Lastly, where did the OP say he already owns the 860k?
I think I'm done here. I've provided benchmarks to support my claims, and yet you continue to deny them without a shred of evidence. Either you're a troll or just incredibly stubborn, either way there's no point in continuing.
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The 860k is good value for money but on a new build basis pairing it with a 390 is in a word 'mental'
Itll pair about as well as a $75 CPU with a $300+ GPU can be expected - which is not that well.
For about the same outlay you can do an i5+a 380x which is a far far better pairing.
Itll pair about as well as a $75 CPU with a $300+ GPU can be expected - which is not that well.
For about the same outlay you can do an i5+a 380x which is a far far better pairing.
And i3 is basically to cores and 4 threads. Newer games are really starting to take advantage of those for cores. As where fallout 4 at least requires a core i5 or an AMD x4 phenom. I do believe that when you look into a gaming rig you should look at a cpu best for gaming. But why would you get a CPU that's going to be outdated in like a year and have stuttering . Finally for cried for doesnt or can't even open games on a computer that only has two cars. So what is that telling you maybe that computers with two cores can't run the latest titles ? so of course have you seen the consoles have 8 cores wonder why that is so you're stubborn and an Intel fan buy . Yet I5 is best here .
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High settings rather than ultra but pretty much a locked 60fps on any game out there with the minimum of fuss.
Better choice than the 860k+390 hands down.
The 6300+390 is 'viable' but it needs to be overclocked & you'll need a good quality board & cooler - that very likely makes it the most expensive option by a fair bit.
Better choice than the 860k+390 hands down.
The 6300+390 is 'viable' but it needs to be overclocked & you'll need a good quality board & cooler - that very likely makes it the most expensive option by a fair bit.
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Prices are country dependant but in the us something like this.
The problem is us prices don't directly v compare to European , I fully know this because I'm UK - the build below would cost around 15-20% more in the UK.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380X 4GB PCS+ Myst. Edition Video Card ($213.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool KENDOMEN Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $723.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-24 12:21 EST-0500
The problem is us prices don't directly v compare to European , I fully know this because I'm UK - the build below would cost around 15-20% more in the UK.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380X 4GB PCS+ Myst. Edition Video Card ($213.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Deepcool KENDOMEN Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($55.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $723.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-24 12:21 EST-0500
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