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First off, I have done my best to properly research the benefits and costs associated with the major choices between how one should build a gaming PC with a reasonable budget, so forgive me if I missed a few details in my analysis.

The idea with this build is gaming first, video editing second. I also run 3 monitors, which includes the Samsung 4K listed below.

I'm wanting to upgrade my, mostly, 5 year old build, which should be in my signature, but just in case it's not, here it is:

Current Build:

Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced
Mobo: Asus Sabertooth X58
CPU: Core i7 950 @ 3.07GHz(stock)
GPUs: EVGA GTX 780 Classified
Memory: 12GB G.Skill DDR3 1333 @ 1600
SSDs: Samsung 840 EVO
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series 850W
Monitor: Samsung UE590 4K

Proposed Build: Please feel free to offer any advice/alternatives to my choices!

Case: Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced
Mobo: MSI X99A SLI Plus
CPU: Intel i7 5820K
GPUs: EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified w/ BP or grab a second GTX 780 Classified
Memory: 16GB of Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB @ 3000MHz
SSDs: Samsung 840 EVO
PSU: Corsair Enthusiast Series 850W
Monitor: Samsung UE590 4K

Thoughts? Suggestions?
 
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Good choice of GPU. Linustech did benchmarking of all the cards and the FTW was the fastest out of all of EVGA's 980ti cards - straight out of the box, including the more expensive classified edition (not that it makes that much diff). Crazy that they have 10 models of 980ti. They need to learn from Samsung's reduction of phone models and saving billions in the process. 1 base reference card, 1 FTW factory sc, 1 classified superwank for manual overclocking.

Regarding CPU / mobo / ram: You dont have to but i would. It doesnt have to be right now. At some time when youre ready.


If not going SLI - (also no overclock)

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Another SSD might be considered. im not sure what capacity youre using. If its large id consider getting a 250gb 850 SSD for O/s and using the 840 for your work/program space.

980ti is a great card, as youve noticed youre not running games at max on 4k. It still doesnt do 4k fluently (though a hell of alot better than the 780).
Thats why i recommend 1440p, not 4k.
I dont like SLI either, but if on 4k id have 2x 980TIs. Run the 1x 980ti now and either sell it on ebay when pascall comes out at end of year or get another 980ti later
 
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Dont get a window. More noise and/or price.
A PC should be fast, quiet and discreet. Put it under the desk and focus on the screen.
If you want flashy distracting stuff get some fairy lights from a $2 store and string them around your desk.
 
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Thank you for the feedback, I forgot to add my other SSD. I run my OS on my Samsung 840 EVO 120GB and the 840 EVO 256GB for my games. I also have other HDs and EHDs but they aren't worth noting.

Buying a 980 Ti right now would be the same exact scenario I ran into buying my 780 Classified in January of 2014 with the 900 series coming out September of 2014. That's something I'd rather not do again but I don't know if I have a choice considering a 970 isn't worth the upgrade, at least not in my opinion, and the Pascall is too far off to consider waiting for. I should be able to get $200-$250 for my Classified on eBay.

I have started to play games on 1440p due to scaling problems. Kind of hoping more games will be properly scaled in the next year or so.



I run a Noctua NH-D14 and will be buying the adapter bracket for the 2011-v3 socket. I have had no issues with this cooler and my CPU has always been cool (at least for my liking). I would change cases but I absolutely love my HAF 932 and see no reason to upgrade it and probably won't for along time. It also sits under my desk so looking at it isn't a big deal.

I forgot to add, the main reason why I am upgrading now is because I'll be buying The Division on PC, and I want to be able to max it out. I also saw the leaked GoW specs and kind of want to be prepared for 4K. I've also had some issues running some high-end games on max graphics with my current 780.
 
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ahh if your keeping your case under your desk then it dont matter, i just like my pc to be flashy loll this build sounds great and should run the division great! i was playing the beta at 1080p on my gtx 970 and was maxing at 60+fps so this build will crushed it!!
 
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Contact Noctua. It may take awhile but if you need a bracket that you dont already have with the D14, then theyll send you one free of charge anywhere in the world. Noctua is fantastic. Im not sure what the D-14 has (i have the U14), but id have thought that the 2011 brackets it came with would still be compatible.

Re video card, yes its a pain in the butt decision but its going to be awhile and we'll always be waiting if we play that game. Id go for the 980ti now. At the very least 1440p will be played at max and some older or not intensive games will be playable at 4k.

Flog it on ebay if pascall is all its supposed to be ( i doubt it, though hope im wrong). Regardless, GPU is the thing i recommend updating regularly.


 
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No worries; I understand. Nothing wrong with wanting something flashy as it's your money. I personally like a good looking PC, but it doesn't really matter in the end as I won't be looking at it for 99% of its life =P.
 
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So before you read my post below, I want to say that I understand the fallacy to "wait for the next *insert new technology here*". The main reason why I am debating whether or not a new build is worth it is because I like to be smart with my money, and get the best cost to performance. With that said, would simply upgrading to a GTX 980 Ti be a bad idea with my current build? I'm guessing it'll bottleneck?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/916373-pc/71942570

Any legitimacy to this thread? The TL, DR is that the Pascal GPU may render old builds worthless by using a new system other than PCI-e, requiring new motherboards and CPUs.

Pulled from the thread - "Something many people forget--or are writing off altogether or maybe really just don't know--is that with Pascal, comes the new NV-Link bus to replace PCI-e (or its a form of GPU specific PCI-e for Pascal), which requires a new motherboard, which then also will require a new CPU due to supported sockets (most likely the brand new Skylake architecture), and that in turn means DDR4. So that being the case, you'll end up having nothing other than your PSU and HDDs to transfer to your new build."

OP later went on to link this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBf8FLS6q8E&feature=player_embedded - which states towards the end of the video, "NVLink also enables high-speed GPU communication, allowing both processor types to access system memory at the same speed, and further increasing the benefit of accelerated computing."

I tend to agree with this person's post though - "NVLink is not intended for consumer motherboards right now fyi so fear mongering over it atm is a bit silly until we see some concrete proof that 1. It'll even wind up on consumer motherboards, and 2. That Nvidia intends to completely replace PCI-E with NVLink

To my mind it doesnt make much sense to attempt to lock Pascal to NVLink, even if it does wind up on consumer motherboards. So few people are going to go out and buy a new motherboard just for a new GPU that Nvidia would be massively limiting their potential market. Locking a Titan to NVLink is one thing(and something that would actually have made a bit of sense when the Titan lineup had great workstation performance), but there is just no way anyone at Nvidia is stupid enough to attempt to lock the mainstream GPUs to NVLink.

I'm not saying that Pascal wont have any NVLink consumer cards(if NVLink even officially comes to consumer boards), but there is just no way they lock Pascal to NVLink, unless they feel like letting AMD gain back a ton of market share(and even with the 11th rebrand of the HD7000 series, they would still massively benefit from being the only choice for new PCI-E GPUs)."
 
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I didnt even look at your old build previously, no it wont bottleneck the GPU. (not sure on SLI, even then i doubt itd make much diff).

The best thing by far with your system is to upgrade the GPU. See if you can get another same stick of 4gb Ram cheaply to make it 16gb (for some games that count).

I havent read up on much of the pascall but i also doubt theyd lock it to NVlink so soon. Maybe next year or two.
Whatever GPU you go with, dont waste $ on classified versions. Just get one with non reference cooling (they are quieter, larger diameter fans) and either reference speed or middle of the run factory oc.

I update my cards often to recover a significant amount of $ on ebay. It really doesn't cost that much each year to run top gear, barring the initial purchase.
I updated from 980 to 980ti and because i found a good deal i was lucky enough to sell the 980 for the same price i had purchased it for.
 
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So I ended up pulling the trigger on a EVGA GTX 980 Ti FTW Edition which had a sick deal on it. The FTW card is very close to the KINGPIN, in terms of performance. On top of that, the one I found was from a legit 3rd party on Amazon, selling for $589.99 (instead of $629.99 from Amazon directly), and I avoided $55 in tax. I'll have to wait a little longer for it, but saving around $80 seems like a pretty good deal.

I'll have to continue debating about upgrading my mobo, CPU, and memory. Just to conclude this thread (or continue it for debate purposes), are my choices solid or should I consider something else?
 
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Good choice of GPU. Linustech did benchmarking of all the cards and the FTW was the fastest out of all of EVGA's 980ti cards - straight out of the box, including the more expensive classified edition (not that it makes that much diff). Crazy that they have 10 models of 980ti. They need to learn from Samsung's reduction of phone models and saving billions in the process. 1 base reference card, 1 FTW factory sc, 1 classified superwank for manual overclocking.

Regarding CPU / mobo / ram: You dont have to but i would. It doesnt have to be right now. At some time when youre ready.


If not going SLI - (also no overclock)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus H170-PRO ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($110.00 @ B&H)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $505.88


If going SLI, can also overclock.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($378.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170 PRO GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($157.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $609.95


5820k option, can overclock & SLI -

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($374.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus X99-A/USB 3.1 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($200.00 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $654.98


Not sure how intensive your workload is with video editing, if you really need the 5820k. But theres 3 options id recommend.
Only use crucial, kingston or corsair RAM. Most stuff RAM speeds make a negligible difference. Some high end editing it does, a little.
Asus most reliable mobo manufacturer. Saw lots of returns with bizarre problems with the x99, regardless of brand. Not saying dont get it, its the only choice if you need it. Just to be aware that you didnt make the wrong choice if you encounter a problem.
If you can, buy the mobo from a walk in cheap pc store so if youre unlucky, you can take the whole pc down and they do a quick test & swap.
 
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