AMD owner, question concerning Intel.

Chesley Oxendine

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Okay, I'm sure we've seen the debate rage eternal, and I'm not going to pass this post off as remotely unique besides asking that people provide links to like, benchmarks or something, because I am confused as hell.

My situation is this: intense framerate jitters give me massive headaches. Maintaining a smooth FPS isn't just an e-peen thing, it's a factor in whether or not I can play a game for more than 30 minutes.

My current specs are:

GTX970 4GB EVGA (no overclocking, as I'm new to it and can't figure out what's safe.)
AMD 8370 turbo'd to 4.3.ghz
16GB Corsair DDR3 RAM
MSI motherboard whose model number I can't quite remember at the moment, but will provide if necessary

Now, every time I've gone to ask about advice toward improving my performance in games like Just Cause 3 or Battlefield 4 (where staring headlong into an intense battle can drop my frames into the 40s, where the unsteadiness of the drop from a steady >60 to ~40 can start the headaches in,) all I've heard is "go Intel." Stuttering in particular can trigger the headaches something fierce.

That's an expensive prospect, I'm afraid--if I'm going to get an Intel CPU worth a damn and actually see an increase in performance, that's going to be an i5, minimum, plus a motherboard. It's not that I'm unwilling, but if I can forego, for the moment, spending a lot of cash, it would be helpful. What I'm *not* willing to do is buy an Intel chip I'm going to have to upgrade again anytime soon. If I go intel, it needs to be something I can sit on for awhile.

The thing is, I can't find a solid answer as to whether or not my 8370 is the culprit for the stuttering--i.e., by bottlenecking my 970. I can't seem to figure out how to hook a CPU monitor onto RivaTuner, either, and while HWMonitor frequently reports 100% CPU utilization, HWiNFO rarely reports above 90% on any individual core.

So, the ultimate question I guess: is this an issue with particular games? Do other AMD users find that their processors bottle neck mid-to-high end cards? Is the bump up to Intel going to give me a genuine improvement in performance?
 
Solution
openhardwaremonitor has a web server built into monitor stats, so you can bring it up on another pc, tablet, phone, etc next to you while you game and see cpu ulti/gpu/temps/ram/etc

I play BF4/BF:HL and can get 60fps stable with vsync on and don't notice anything bad, usually with settings turned down to high instead of ultra and all standard settings for draw distance, etc. BF4 is a game that you can play at good settings with mimimum hardware but it can suck it up for ultra/super AA/far draw distance, etc.

No idea of just cause. l ol.

But try openhardware monitor to monitor from another device or CAM monitor software for overlay for cpu/gpu temps/usage/etc.
openhardwaremonitor has a web server built into monitor stats, so you can bring it up on another pc, tablet, phone, etc next to you while you game and see cpu ulti/gpu/temps/ram/etc

I play BF4/BF:HL and can get 60fps stable with vsync on and don't notice anything bad, usually with settings turned down to high instead of ultra and all standard settings for draw distance, etc. BF4 is a game that you can play at good settings with mimimum hardware but it can suck it up for ultra/super AA/far draw distance, etc.

No idea of just cause. l ol.

But try openhardware monitor to monitor from another device or CAM monitor software for overlay for cpu/gpu temps/usage/etc.
 
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RCFProd

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You have to make sure the power saving on that AMD FX-8370 is completely disabled. Make sure that processor is getting maximum performance. Your build is solid, so should your performance be in games that support that processor well. Even try overclocking RAM to like 2133.
 
There is something that is unstable with your setup. I have the FX 8370 and have no problems gaming. I have an R9 290 Vapor X, which is similar in performance to your GTX 970 so there shouldn't be any bottlenecking issues. Can you please find the exact model number of your motherboard. FX 8 core processors are posted all the time as being "compatible" with 4+1 power phase motherboards, but really should have 8+2 power phase and VRM cooling. Also what are you temperatures when you are playing games, you might be experiencing thermal throttling.

The FX 8370 shouldn't be at 100% CPU utilization while playing those games and it should be giving you 60FPS+ in a game like Battlefield 4. People telling you to just upgrade to Intel are "copping out" because they don't know what is wrong with your system and people see AMD and just without thought say switch to Intel - its a reflex reaction.

I think the best places to start is what is your power supply unit, what is the exact make and model number of your motherboard and what are your temperatures while gaming. Those things will help us nail down why your FX 8370 is under performing what it is capable of.

update: just noticed your motherboard, that is one thing we can scratch from the list, your motherboard is fine.

Will still need to know what your power supply unit is and what your in game temperatures are.
 
Was just thinking over your problem and remembered I was having performance issues with my FX 8370 when I first upgraded it on my Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 motherboard. I had to flash a bios update to give my motherboard proper support for the 8 core FX 8370. Check to see if you have the latest bios.

-If you don't have the latest bios version (can be found on Asus's official webpage) download the latest bios to flash drive and flash it to your motherboard. Restart your computer enter bios again and select "load optimum defaults" save and exit.

-If you have the latest bios version select "load optimum defaults" save and exit bios when the computer restarts see if you are still having performance issues.