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I have a few rigs that I have seen on the Forums or that have been built by friends. I wanna get some opinions on these rigs. I will be playing games like GTA, Garry's Mod, some FPS games and then some. I also plan on doing some video rendering for Youtube. My budget is around the $1,000-1,300 mark. I have never built a computer before but I have people that can help me out who have experience. So, here are the builds.

Builds I picked off the Forums:
Build 1: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WYnXgs
Build 2: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JVbVsY
Build 3: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WqRCf7

My friends build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VYY2t6

A rig I made that I just threw together: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DKnCf7

I understand that these are very similar, but sometimes the small diference changes a build. Feel free to suggest which ones are better, edit the builds, or completely reccomend a new build. I am open to suggestions. Also, I have never had a performance PC. I am coming from console. Because I am new to PC gaming, I do not plan on overclocking for my first build. If in the future I decide to overclock, I will upgrade. Thanks a lot! :bounce:
 
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Just go with the second build imo. You might regret it if you don't. If you decide the first build, change the power supply. Corsair CX is bad. Otherwise it looks like a good build. It becomes a tough decision between Build 1 in your original post, with the i5-4690k, and build 2 in your last post with the i5-6500.
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Overall A good build besides the HDD and questions on the MOBO. 3 tb hard drives from Seagate are known for having abnormally high fail rates and have many dead drives that ship. I believe they have gotten better but with past results I would be cautious. Here is the fail rates https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-update-september-2014/ . Also that Mini ITX board is going to look TINY in that mid size case. I would recommend going for a normal ATX board.
Hope this helps! :)
 
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Which build are you referring too.

 
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So after a few months, how is it holding up? Do you overclock? How heavily do you play? Also it looks like those prices jumped up quite a bit since you purchased your parts.

 
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I like YOUR build best.

6600K is THE best gaming processor.

Some minor suggestions.

1. Noctua NH-D15 is a very large cooler and can impact some clearances.
I suggest the NH-U14s, which has been adjusted for compatibility with graphics cards and ram.
Actually, the smaller NH-U12s seems to do the job adequately for me.

2. Ram faster than 2400 will need more than the default 1.2v. I think higher voltage will inhibit your overclock potential
There seems to be little benefit from fast DDR4 ram.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1478-page1.html

3. Love the ssd. Is 500gb within your budget? Can you defer on the hard drive?

4. I think WD may be more reliable if you need to store large files such as videos.
Perhaps wd red.
https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Understanding-the-WD-Rainbow-674/

5. Pick the case you love. NZXT looks good to me.

6. A GTX970 only needs 550w.
I have no problem overprovisioning a PSU a bit. Say 20%.
It will run cooler, quieter, and more efficiently in the middle third of it's range.
A PSU will only use the wattage demanded of it, regardless of it's max capability.

Pick a tier 1 or 2 unit from a list such as this:
https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx?Redirected=true
Seasonic is my go to brand.
 
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I remember helping you with this yesterday but I'll go a bit further and try to make a few more suggestions. For example, build 1 and 3 I think are from me. However there is quite a gap in pricepoint between the two builds. It could be argued that the Skylake build includes overpriced components, like a 220 dollar motherboard in comparison to a 110 dollar one on the first build.

What I would suggested is mixing these prices, and getting the best of both worlds from 1300 USD, which leads to an i5-6600k + R9 390X. All below 1300 USD. Also, a 750 watts power supply instead of 650 because the R9 390X is very power hungry so you won't be held back from overclocking it on a 650 watts. This would be the ideal of both worlds inside this budget:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler ($25.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($131.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($86.75 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390X 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($369.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks ECLIPSE P400S ATX Mid Tower Case ($87.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) ($89.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1271.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-03 11:16 EST-0500

And Geofelt, take a look at this article that shows a big performance impact on higher clocked DDR3/4 RAM in open-world games:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k
 
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This looks amazing, however, if I don't need to overclock, do I need a k series CPU? Plus what advantage do I get out of the K series when not overclocking? Thanks for your help
 
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If you don't mind, could you provide a build with said adjustments. Remember, I don't need to overclock. Thanks again.

 
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The pure benefit of the K-series is overclocking. I a lot of people get more into overclocking down the road, so if it doesn't come in useful now, it might do later on. However you can save costs and get an i5-6500 with an entry Z170 motherboard so you can still run DDR4-3000 (All other chipsets like B150/H170 are all limited to DDR4-2133 Mhz).

Example:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($189.49 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: RAIJINTEK RHEA 33.6 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z170A-X1/3.1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($98.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($87.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $391.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-03 11:31 EST-0500

This set of components, compared to the i5-6600k above, would save you 100 dollars.
 
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When I think of computers, I think of expensive costs. And then I look at coolers and I see a $15 cooler that you had above. Do effective coolers run that cheap?

 
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The pure intend of that CPU cooler is that It's a better and more silent one than the stock heatsink of the i5-6500, and since you can't overclock you don't need a better one either. I did this because the version of the one without heatsink is 10 dollars cheapers (189 dollars) compared to the version with heatsink (199 dollars). So you'd have an i5-6500 with a better CPU cooler for 5 dollars more basically, but keep in mind you would need to buy a tube of thermal paste, assuming It's not pre-applied on the Raijintek Rhea.

Edit: The Raijintek Rhea comes with a little bag of thermal paste. Don't need to buy it.
 
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But you wouldn't need thermal paste with the Skylake you gave me earlier? The end setup would look like this then: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BHwpqs. If I decide that I won't want to get into overclocking for a long time, than I will go with this. If I decide that I might start experimenting with overclocking, I will go with this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DW7d3C.

 
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Just go with the second build imo. You might regret it if you don't. If you decide the first build, change the power supply. Corsair CX is bad. Otherwise it looks like a good build. It becomes a tough decision between Build 1 in your original post, with the i5-4690k, and build 2 in your last post with the i5-6500.
 
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Sounds great. I will make a decision on a build soon. Thanks a lot and sorry if i got repetitive or obnoxious with my questions. :p
 
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