I can't get internet when I plug my wireless router into my ethernet plug in the wall (which then goes ->patch->switch->modem)

Classic Schmosby

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TP-LINK 8-Port Gigabit Desktop Switch, 10/100/1000Mbps, 16 Gbps Switching, Black (TL-SG1008D)

Tripp Lite 12-Port Wallmount Cat5e Patch Panel 568B, RJ45 Ethernet(N050-012)(yeah, I got Cat5 by mistake, but I don't think that's the problem)

Cisco DPC3010 DOCSIS 3.0 8x4 Cable Modem (with dd-wrt installed (yeah, I like messing, even though I don't know what I'm doing))

TP-LINK TL-WR841N Wireless N300 Home Router, 300Mbps, IP QoS, WPS Button

I decided to try wiring my house with internet. I ran 4 Cat6 wires from my basement to a wall socket (on the first floor of a two story house). I plan on doing more rooms and figured the basement was the best place everything could run to. So I have the internet coming to a coax port on the wall and it comes to a modem, then a switch then to a patch panel then the four runs go from the panel out to my wall socket.

But here's the thing, I wanted to put my wireless router on the first floor rather than the basement so it could reach the second floor better (until I have a chance to run wires up there). All four sockets worked; my Roku 3 made a wired connection (yay, I never wired anything like a wall jack or a panel before).

But, when I plugged the wireless router into one of the sockets I could not get any internet wirelessly. My desktop is on the third floor and I didn't drag it down to a socket to try it there.


Here's what I tried. I tried following a number of instructions (from my tiny phone screen) to make the router an access point. I had to reset my router several times, b/c once I did that, my computers couldn't even get back into the router (via the ip address) to attempt any further changes. But they just kept saying "secured, no internet" as the status. I thought I had to then give my computer a static ip, but I'm a newbie and that is just confusing. I really wasn't sure whether to plug my router into the wall through the WAN or one of the other ports (I tried both combinations).

After looking a lot, I think I figured out that I need a router after the modem and before the switch (in the basement) and another router set up as an access point. But I'm not sure. I tried several times to just give up and put my router in the basement, between the modem and the switch (eventually that worked even though several attempts of that didn't work previously - I don't understand why it didn't work on some attempts).

So, is there a way to plug my router in on my ground floor wall socket (that goes to the panel to the switch to the modem)?

Sorry for the verbose nature, but in reading these forums, it seems better to be thorough and specific. And please give your answers like you are talking to a child, lol.
Thank you all in advance!!!
 
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If you have good cable it will work perfectly fine, the router does not know that all the wires are not on the same table.

If you have issue it will always be some pesky jack that is not quite terminated right. You want to test everything in one room if you can then you know you only have your in wall cables to worry about.

Ralston18

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As I understand your requiremenst, I would think:

ISP -----> Modem -------->[WAN]Router[LAN ports] -------->[LAN Ports]Patch Panel------>Wall Plugs.

From the desired location wall plug ------>Switch [Ports] ------>Wired devices

The wireless router could either be served indivdually from a wall port or from the switch. It would be connected via ethernet cable to one of its LAN ports.

Modem DHCP off (if modem/router). Main router does DHCP work. Wireless router also has DHCP of and is given a static IP.

You do need to have the ip addressing all set correctly. (There is a good tutorial in this forum that goes into the details).

Sketch out a diagram and included the expected IP addressing (static and DHCP assigned). Keep track of wall plug and port assignements. That will help with troubleshooting.

Get wired connections going first so then any additional problems will most likely be wireless issues (barring IP conflicts etc.)

Then, if there are still problems, you can post the diagram and describe the problem. That really helps people who wish to and can respond.
 

Classic Schmosby

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Okay, I think I was told a solution that is very simple and will solve my problem. It unfortunately may not help those with the same problem in the future though.

It will go like this: Internet--->modem--->patch panel------>wall outlet--->router---> back in another outlet in the wall------>patch panel--->switch--->other wall outlets/roku, etc.

Basically use my panel and already run cables as a long extension cord to the router on the ground floor. Then out from the router through another set of cable back to the basement, keeping the router in the proper series in the line.

I'll be trying this tonight. Do you foresee any problem with this?
 
If you have good cable it will work perfectly fine, the router does not know that all the wires are not on the same table.

If you have issue it will always be some pesky jack that is not quite terminated right. You want to test everything in one room if you can then you know you only have your in wall cables to worry about.
 
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