Haswell Vs Skylake - gaming build

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Im faced with a choice of an i7 4790k or an i5 6600K? I realize the haswell i7 will operate at higher Ghz speed without the need to OC, however Im concerned about the voltage/sleep issues that seemed to plague the 4th generation chips. PC is for gaming and home office tasks. i7 is maybe $120 dollars more and have read several places that i5 is more than suitable for current gaming needs.

Giving the importance of hyperthreading as we move forward and skylakes voltage and the performance benefits of DDR4, am I foolish to spent up for an older generation? even if its a supposedly superior chip? why or why not? will I see a noticeable performance difference going forward?
 
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Sorry for being a dummy and not reading your post more carefully. There are a lot of 4790k vs 6700k posts so I got carried away.

To answer your question, if I HAD to choose between the 4790k and the 6600k, I would choose the 4790k. The price difference should be a lot less than $120 considering the 4790k comes with a perfectly capable stock cooler, and the 6600k does not. The i7 is only about $80 more anyway. Motherboard costs should be similar with the z170 boards being a little more expensive.

It is absolutely NOT foolish to start a new build with the "old" 4790k as it will be viable for many many many years to come.

Personally, I wouldn't really consider either one unless the budget is just really high. There is no reason you...

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Yeah, if you can afford the 6700k, just get a 5820k and X99 motherboard. 2 more cores will give you significantly more performance than the IPC gain that skylake offers. Yeah most games wont use the additional cores but they are great for other things. Video editing, streaming (encoding while gaming).

In addition to the extra cores, you get support for more RAM and I think the 5820k has more PCIe lanes than the 6700k (not sure if skylake is limited to 16 like haswell).

Both platforms use DDR4 so its not like that is a concern.
 

You really want to have a look at the underlying platforms, e.g. Skylake makes the PCI-E lanes from the PCH PCI-E 3.0 instead of PCI-E 2.0, which is an aid if you're looking at SLI or multiple M.2/U.2 devices, etc. Personally, I'd be inclined to look at Skylake, although if there's a big price difference, maybe not.


I could be wrong, but isn't the max turbo quoted on Skylake "all core", whereas that on Haswell is "single core"? The 4790K will turbo to 4.2GHz with 4 cores loaded.

++ EDIT: Whoops - thrown by the mentions of the 6700K by other posters ... with the i5-6600K, it's about 0.5GHz difference, although most games aren't CPU bound, so I'm not sure it'll make much difference.


Never had any issues with my i7-4790K in over a year.


This would be correct - for home office, I doubt the i7 is going to help much.


If you look at AnandTech's review of Skylake, they do various multi-threaded tests with the i7-6700K, i5-6600K, and i7-4790K. The Skylake i5 is about 15% slower than the Skylake i7, with the Haswell being in the middle, but slightly closer to the other i7 ...


Looking at the benchmarks over on AnandTech (e.g. Handbrake, and other stuff that is quite multi-threaded), the difference between the i7-6700K and the i7-5820K really is not that much - it's much less than c 20% difference the paper specs would indicate it might be.
 

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Sorry for being a dummy and not reading your post more carefully. There are a lot of 4790k vs 6700k posts so I got carried away.

To answer your question, if I HAD to choose between the 4790k and the 6600k, I would choose the 4790k. The price difference should be a lot less than $120 considering the 4790k comes with a perfectly capable stock cooler, and the 6600k does not. The i7 is only about $80 more anyway. Motherboard costs should be similar with the z170 boards being a little more expensive.

It is absolutely NOT foolish to start a new build with the "old" 4790k as it will be viable for many many many years to come.

Personally, I wouldn't really consider either one unless the budget is just really high. There is no reason you couldn't go with the regular i5 6600 or 6500 on a B150 or H170 motherboard. If you really want hyoerthreading, the Xeon e3-1231v3 is the same price as the if 6600k and works in any $50-80 B85 or H97 motherboard.

 
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The i7 cost $95 more than the i5, and the stock cu cooler that the i7 has is just a backup cooler really as you are buying a "k" model to overclock with an aftermarker coooler, an i7 is not needed for gaming, you could drop to an old i5 and still get really good performance
 

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i just upgraded to the 6700k and there really is not alot more preformance then the 4790k it is just a little more if i was you i would go with the 4790k it is more bang for the buck.
 
Both options you have presented are overclockable. Why? Overclocking is of limited value for your home/gaming needs.

A $241 Xeon 1231v3 with a H97 motherboard and a discrete GPU would seem to meet all your current and future needs and will run on the stock cooler.
 

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Well I personally would not buy a platform that has no future. I dont believe they will be making any additional CPUs for the Z97 platform, Skylake 1151 has taken over the consumer marketshare. The 6600K overclocks quite well and could match the 4790K higher clock speeds with no problem. If you dont care about the upgradability of your pc and really want an I7 then I guess go for the 4790K but that is just not a good investment. The 6600K is a fully capable processor to handle your needs.
 

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and ddr3 is getting old soon ddr4 will be taking over. lol just had to add that