INTEL XEON W3530 2.8GHZ Quad Core

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Ok so i might have been stupid i bought this processor off ebay Intel Xeon W3530 - 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Processor could anyone tell me if it will do what i will be expecting it to do run Windows 7 4GB Ram all i can afford faster than my Pentium 4 Processor Thank You
 
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The XEON W3530 is just the XEON version of the i7 930. The chip specs for these two models are almost identical, the only real difference being the XEON supports ECC RAM.

Why did you buy the W3530? Do you already have some related parts? An i7 930 would have been cheaper I'm sure, indeed the somewhat better i7 950 or 960 are also cheap. Either way, these CPUs are intended for motherboards with an LGA 1366 socket, which on the consumer side are known as X58 boards...

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If you haven't got already you will need a new Motherboard to support the XEON as a Pentium 4 has a compleatly different socket. I also recommend that you upgrade your ram to a min of 8GB @1600Mhz. This will result in the ability to open more application and run your games better if you intend to game on your machine.

Hope this helps :D
 

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Thank you Just run Wind 7 my Forensic programs aswell but is that processor socet 775 compatible i only noticed now its a 1366 socket my board is still 775 really old
 

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Ifs a Foxconn N15235 Board
 

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Unfortunately N15235 is not the model number. I am not sure what this number means but it was used on many different motherboards. Tthe model number however should be underneath that or on one of the stickers.

look at this picture: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91oX3%2B-f%2BbL._SL1500_.jpg

see G31MPX series under N15235? That is part of the model number for the pictured board, NOT YOURS! Then on the sticker to the right you will see G32MPX-K that is the model number and what is needed to figure out how to proceeded.

What is your model number?

What is your budget?
 

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Even with not knowing the model number he has said that its a 775 and that the new Xeon W3530 is LGA 1366, either way he need to get a new motherboard if he is to use the Xeon W3530 :)
 


You are correct, however you are assuming that they have the money to purchase MB, RAM, and prob. GC, OS. Since the W3530 sells for about $9 on ebay I am assuming their is not money to buy MB, RAM, GC, OS. If all they want to do is have a better windows 7 experience and run programs better/faster (which is what it looks like to me) then what I am asking for is necessary information. It may be that their best and cheapest route to a much better running computer on the cheap is a Core 2Q for about $30.

From P4 to C2Q is completely doable depending on the board and the performance difference will be drastic. P4 just sucks really bad on Windows Vista and above.

I recently upgraded a family members computer from a single core NetBurst CeleronD 320 with 2 GB RAM that would barely run anything (windows took forever to boot as well) to a Quad core XEON 5450 with 8GB RAM. The difference was night and day their was no comparison to before and after. It only cost about $50 in eaby parts. It all depends on the board. I had never seen such drastic improvement from an upgrade before the 775 platform had great legs for its potential upgrade ability.
 

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Yeah I get where you are coming from and yes 775 is old but if he intends to game then it wont really do much. He needs a new motherboard that will support his Xeon CPU and more ram if possible to make it 8GB which would make it faster but again its about affordability :)

LGA 1366 socket and processors were discontinued sometime in 2012 so again still a more outdated CPU but still offers performance. He either says with his 775 motherboard and I assume DDR2 memory and gets a new CPU which would result a waste of his new Xeon or bites the dust and gets new CPU memory and motherboard. Depends on budget :)
 

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The XEON W3530 is just the XEON version of the i7 930. The chip specs for these two models are almost identical, the only real difference being the XEON supports ECC RAM.

Why did you buy the W3530? Do you already have some related parts? An i7 930 would have been cheaper I'm sure, indeed the somewhat better i7 950 or 960 are also cheap. Either way, these CPUs are intended for motherboards with an LGA 1366 socket, which on the consumer side are known as X58 boards (because they use Intel's X58 chipset). This is rather old technology now. If you have a chance to change your mind about the XEON purchase, I would recommend doing so. A newer build, even from tech just 1 or 2 generations old, eg. Z68 or Z77, would be much better.

If you do want to go ahead and use the CPU though, then you need to find an X58 motherboard which will support that CPU (many consumer X58 boards do not support XEONs, or only a limited number of them) along with one or more triple-channel memory kits (3x2GB or 3x4GB was typical, or you could slightly cheat by obtaining three identical 2-channel kits). Some Gigabyte X58 boards have good support for XEONs, especialy the GA-X58A-UD3R, but this is a highly valued model on the used market today. Asrock often has good support aswell. By contrast, ASUS generally doesn't bother with much in the way of XEON support on its consumer boards.

Either way, you're still likely looking at a used mbd purchase, with all the relevant risks involved.

If you are on a limited budget, then the used market can be incredibly useful, I buy stuff on eBay all the time. However, if you're starting from scratch, IMO you're better off trying to win a motherboard/CPU/graphics bundle, there tend to be quite a few of these at any one time, and at least that way you will have a matching set of parts. Then you just need a CPU cooler, case, PSU, graphics card, etc., all items which are much less problematic if obtained separately. Sometimes a bundle with already include one or more of these other items, especially the CPU cooler.

To answer your question though, yes that CPU will run Win7 ok, and it will be a lot faster than your old P4, but do try and get more than 4GB RAM even so. 8GB would be a more sensible minimum these days. Thet key point though is that the W3530 is not compatible with your existing motherboard, etc. You would need a matching X58 motherboard and newer triple channel DDR3 RAM in order to make use of the W3530.

Thus, if you have the option, I recommend returning the W3530, look for a Z68, Z77 or even a Z87 CPU/RAM/mbd bundle instead, eg. something like an i5 2500K, entry or medium level board (eg. ASUS P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3, Asrock Z68 Extreme4, Gigabyte GA-Z68Z-UD4P, etc.), with 8GB or 16GB RAM at 1600MHz minimum. This would be a decent starter setup which should not cost that much. Note that RAM is now quite cheap, so even just getting a CPU/mbd bundle is another option, ie. buy the RAM separately (I go for GSkill because it has lifetime warranty, eg. last week I won a 16GB 2133MHz kit for 58 UKP). This would open up a wider range of relevant auctions. For safety, look for sellers who list items with, "Returns accepted", ie. ignore any listing that says, "NO RETURNS", it's not worth the trouble. Make sure the mbd listed includes its original I/O shield (backplate), and if possible look for a bundle which already has the CPU installed on the mbd, because then you won't have to worry about doing that.

Remember you will also need a CPU cooler and thermal paste. Plenty of options here, both used and new.

Lastly, has to be said, if all you're looking for is a general tasks machine, it's hard to ignore the basic, no-frills but cheap prebuilt systems available from OEMs like Dell, HP and numerous highstreet sellers. Do you really need to build something yourself? Perhaps if the budget is very limited... but then maybe you should consider looking for a complete 2nd-hand PC, instead of separate parts. Old X58-based Dell XEON workstations are very cheap these days.

Ian.



 
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Great information ! Nice to see people that put effort into explaining things!
 

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Thank you for all your advice my budget is quite small i can't find any 1366 board for under R 900
 

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Thank you i'm just looking for a 1366 motherboard that the Xeon Qud will fit into i have about 4GB RAM at the moment
 

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i'm sorry the model number for my current board Foxconn should be 45CM

Intel® Core™2 Duo, Pentium® Dual-Core, Pentium® D, Pentium® 4, Celeron® D, Celeron® processors, Socket T (LGA775)
- 1333(oc*)/1066/800/533 MHz (FSB)
- Dual Channel DDR2 667/533/400 x 2 DIMMs, Max. 4GB
- 1 x PCIe x16, 1 x PCIe x1, 2 x PCI
- ATA x 1, SATA II x 4
- 5.1 channel Audio
- 10/100M LAN
- 8 USB 2.0 ports
 

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4GB is wrong, S1366 boards use 3-channel RAM, so by definition a proper memory kit should be 3GB, 6GB or 12GB. A 4GB kit would mean fitting in some way an inefficient number of modules. It doesn't make sense to "upgrade" if one's only going to end up with an unbalanced system.




That's an older generation S775 board which doesn't support the later S775 CPUs. It's not worth upgrading.




As I explained before, that would likely be a costly and risky process.

You are far better off returning that XEON CPU and buying something else, eg. a newer prebuilt system (even if that's an older Dell XEON machine), a CPU/RAM/mbd bundle off eBay, etc. Honestly dude, if you follow this route of trying to find other parts to go with that CPU, you will likely end up in a world of pain. All you'll end up with is an older setup that's already out of date. It's a bad investment. Today, the oldest tech I'd recommend anyone bother with is P67, unless my some magic they can get hold of a good P55 setup for a crazy price (but that's unlikely, used P55 mbds go for silly high amounts these days, they're worth more than Z68 or even Z77).

Heck, I have good bundles available for sale (mostly P67/Z68, typically 5GHz 2700K), and complete systems, but if you're not in the UK/Europe then it's not worthwhile re the shipping costs, etc. (I live in Scotland, UK).

See my earlier comments for what kind of thing to look for on eBay. Trust me on this, save yourself the hassle, send back that XEON, look for a Z68 parts bundle on eBay, or look for a complete decent PC on normal auction (based on P67, Z68, Z77 or Z87), or just look for a really cheap older pre-built Dell XEON PC that's ready to use (not something I would buy, but at least they're crazy cheap and you wouldn't need to bother doing any system construction, though don't be surprise if they come with an older Windows OS such as Vista Business which you'd then need to upgrade).

Ian.

PS. I actually have suitable X58 boards (Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R), but as I say, such boards are simply too valuable. If you want to find a good board for your CPU, it will be costly. Cheap boards are unlikely to support it, and be less reliable anyway. If you want the minimum amount of hassle & stress, send back your XEON, look for an eBay CPU/RAM/mbd bundle instead, or complete newer PC on normal auction, or a dirt cheap Dell XEON PC (I even have one of those aswell, but it's too low a spec, not suitable).
 
ITBFDR,
Great information, Thanks!
Based on your budget a 1366 board and 4GB DDR3 memory are not going to be afforded as they will cost around 120 USD. Your budget of I believe 900 rand? is about 58 USD.

You currently have a P4 and 4GB of DDR2 RAM, and your board is upgradeable and will perform better than what it currently does after an upgrade. unfortunately it is not as upgradeable as some other 775 platforms. I am not sure where you got the specifications for the board specifically the 1333 and 1066 FSB support. those speeds ar not listed on the Foxconn website. The list says it supports Conroe based cores even though none are listed. It also says it supports Core 2 extreme but that CPU is not on the official support list.

Your ram is already maxed out so their is nothing to do for that part of the upgrade.

Passmark: is a benchmark website that provided synthetic benchmarks of CPU's allowing you to compare CPUs of different generations on a level playing field to compare their performance to one another.

Passmark benchmarks for the following CPUs I do not know which P4 you have but the score provided is for the fastest P4 ever made.

Current? P4
Score: "493"

Core 2 Duo E4700 $17 Guaranteed support!
Score: "1490" Max CPU Officially supported on the foxconn CPU list

Core 2 Duo E6700 $12 if you can set FSB to 1066. Not officially supported but should work.
Score: "1706" 1066 FSB Conroe core if you can use 1066 FSB this CPU should work

Core 2 Extreme X6800 $30 Not recommended due to cost vs. performance.
Score: "1905" 1066 FSB Conroe core if you can use 1066 FSB this CPU should work (some foxconn documentation says it is supported)

Core 2 Duo E6850 $7 #1 recommendation only if you can actually set FSB to 1333. Not officially supported but should work.
Score: "1970" 1333 FSB Conroe core if you can use 1333 FSB this CPU should work

All prices are rounded up from ebay prices.