Chipset overheats, I have a question

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Blazthhm

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Hello everyone, I have a question for you

I have a msi gaming 970 motherboard. This problem I have has been like a math problem for me J

My specs:


MSI gaming 970 mobo

AMD FX 8120 cpu

Sapphire R9 290 TriX vga

Asus xonar dg 5.1 pci sound card



For cooling, In my zalman z3 plus pc case, I use 2 fans for the push through the front for the pull 2 at the top and 2 push-pull at the back with liquid cooling heatsink between them (zalman LQ series)

I’ve written the relevant components for the problem I have.

The problem is my chipset gets too hot. It’s related to the mb I assume.. Cos when I touch there;

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I can feel that it’s hotter than the other parts.

It shows 80 celcius degrees in hw monitor when I game and it shows 60 celcius when idle.

And I’ve decided to buy this;

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Xigmatek Cn881 chipset cooler

And apply a 80mm fan to it.

This guy did that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKUrYTdYBGU   skip to the 23:03

My question is, is it going to be bad for my vga if I mount it with the fan facing down to my vga, or is it going to be better for my vga also??

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Here you can see that I can’t replace my parts anywhere else in my case, cause my motherboard won’t allow me due to the lack of space and pci slots

Thanks
 
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Rubix and I have cautioned you on everything you need to know. If you're adamant in doing so, and you feel that you have the proper knowledge, then just be careful not to short your mobo/GPU PCB. Good luck, bud.
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Benjiwenji

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You'll have a higher chance to cause permanent damage to the board than having a warm chipset.

You best solution is a mount a fan on the side penal of the case pointing directly on the board. Don't risk everything for a minor issue.
 
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This heatsink is going to be warmer than most components and it's designed to function at these temperatures. By removing the cooler and attempting to install your own, you run the risk of failing to install it correctly and actually causing permanent damage to the board either physically or thermally. You just need decent airflow in your case and you'll be fine.
 
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I wouldn't worry about it. If you do install that cooler, be sure you don't short any traces on your MB with the mount, and the fan airflow direction isn't going to cause any issues with your GPU...just make sure the cooler itself also isn't shorting on the PCB of your GPU, either.
 
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Blazthhm

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I don't get it, how is it going to be any dangerous than installing a aftermarket "cpu" cooler?

Okay I'll be careful but why is it risky?

Yeah I totaly get it is designed to work on high temps but 80 degrees celcius is way too high in my opinion. How is it different than any other cpus? I owned 3 mobos in my life and have seen many and their chipset weren't that high. And according to what I've seen, my computer starts to stutter after playing 10 mins of game. Other parts are not getting any higher temp: vga: 60 celcius max, cpu: 45 celcius max but chipset.. 80-85 degrees. I mean that's not normal right? Shouldn't be
 
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if u really want that cooler then i suggest u take ur tower with u to the computer store and ask a tech if the cooler u want can fit in it.
before i go any further.. is that 'vga' beside the r9 spec bro... bro
 
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Don't take this the wrong way but if you don't understand the risks of modifying your mobo to mount an aftermarket cooler on the mobo, then it is best to leave it alone.

PCB can easily get shorted by coming into contact with conductive material, such as the cooler. Thus, if the cooler is a bit off or you make an error in the installation, then you can brick your mobo.

You speak of stutter and performance issues, what made you so sure that they are caused by the mobo? You can just as easily have an unstable overclock.

What do you use for a PSU and GPU?
What are your overclock settings and voltages?


 
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Blazthhm

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@Benjiwenji
PSU is lian li dragonforce 900 Watts
No overclock on cpu or vga.

On idle maximum temps are only on chipset on heavy load. Other parts are working just flawlessly under 60 celcius degree (maximum).

Here, this is on idle; http://prntscr.com/ae8lcp check yourself guys.. TMPIN1 is 50 celcius+ on idle and it will be 80+ degrees on heavy load

I understands the risks of installing the cooler but it is compatible with chipsets, it is adaptable. It won't touch the PCB and it will only touch the chipset's heat conducting part with thermal glue.. I still don't understand what would go wrong with that could you please explain further..
 
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Blazthhm

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Yes I am doing this.. Seeing today after I watched some youtube videos, it got 63 celcius and I'm very mad right now as you can imagine.. As soon as I receive the item i'm going to apply it and post the results here.. Thanks for letting me know that it's dangerous cos I'll be extra cautious now. Will do cable management and make sure to secure cables or other things from the cooler area.

I would just poke a hole to the side panel of the case for a fan directly pointing to the stock cooler but that's the last thing I want to do to my zalman z3+ case that I admire it's look;)

Thanks guys
 
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Please remember that chipsets are DESIGNED to be hot. Just because it is warm/hot to human touch, that doesn't mean it isn't designed to function at those temperatures.

Example - your car engine runs incredibly hot for any human to touch, yet, it is designed to operate in the normal ranges it does.

Please understand that this applies to electronics as well.
 
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Blazthhm

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@rubix

Ok I understand. I've only touched it cos I didn't know what TMPIN0, TMPIN1 or TMPIN2 means on hw monitor.
TMPIN1 was 80 - 85 celcius after I game. And 60+ on idle. So It was the hottest part and I touched them then know the hottest one, my chipset.

I have now changed my heatsink and everything seems to be cool and nice.

Here are the pictures;

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And fyi, I only want my pc parts to be cool so as to extend their lifespan. What I know is; the more they are hot, the less time they have to die.

Thank you for everything guys!!
 
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