Thermal Margin 20-25 under slight load?

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GPU is fine. CPU is 'OK', but not great. It's 20 - 25 C from the thermal limit of your CPU, but TitanFall isn't a particularly stressful application. The noise is what would get to me.
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NEmpire95

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Are you aware of what cpu this is and what cooler? Extreme i7's under load are in the 70s if not water-cooled.
 
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weberdarren97

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How would you know if it's an Extreme i7?
 
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I don't I'm just saying they vary greatly CPU to CPU.
 
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weberdarren97

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Point taken, NateBeast please post the model you are asking about, it would be Uber helpful
 
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NateBeast

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I will see.
Do I select Blend or what? (Modes)
EDIT: I ran blend and it got to around 56 I think but I only ran it for about 10 seconds because the thermal margin got to 14 for a sec so I stopped it. I don't know if it's bad or not. xD lol
 
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techgeek

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I always use worst case scenario, small FFT's. This is way beyond realworld loads, but it's nice to know that under real world applications it won't get any hotter than that.

Just beware that you should be monitoring your thermal margin when you start Prime 95 and ready to stop the stress test if it goes nuclear.
 
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Please discuss in degC if possible.

Anyway, you mention 56degC before stopping. I believe 60degC was mentioned as a point the CPU throttles but I'm not certain.

I would however replace the stock cooler anyway just to reduce the noise. Something like the Cryorig H7 (and adjust fan control software to optimize cooling vs noise).

For a modern Intel CPU (and Intel Stock cooler) it was 52degC vs 80degC difference to give a rough idea of cooling.
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7
 
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NateBeast

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Ok, so I ran it, and my thermal margin got eventually to 10, and my cpu temp got to 65/64. I stopped it then. Also, my cpu fan was going like mad xD.
EDIT: What should my CPU fan speed % be at? Because in SpeedFan it's set to 100, which is quite loud xD
Also, currently I have chrome open with 2 tabs, amd overdrive and speedfan, and it's showing my cpu temp at 47degC, and my thermal margin is at 32 around.

"I believe 60degC was mentioned as a point the CPU throttles but I'm not certain."
I think I saw that it throttles at 72/75. Idk
 
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techgeek

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How long did it run for? Did the temperature plateau or was it still climbing when you stopped it?

This means you are are 10C from throttling. However this is the worst case scenario, so you'll find that you probably won't get much closer than 15 - 20C from the throttle limit under everyday loads.

The other thing is was the fan on the CPU noisy at this temperature and did it disturb you. If the answer is yes, then you might want to consider an aftermarket cooler like the Hyper 212 EVO (reasonably priced) to keep the temps down as well as control the noise. If you are interested in this, we need to know a bit more about your system, specifically your case as some coolers are tall and may not fit a narrow case.
 
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NateBeast

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Ok. I ran it for a short amount of time, probably under 1 minute. The temperature was still climbing when I stopped it again at 10 for the thermal margin, so 61degC in speedfan. My case is the bitfenix comrade, because I might be interested in another cooler. I'm going to try playing a game (titanfall) to see how my temps are.

 
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Well BitFexix doesn't list the maximum cooler height??? This is like basic information that needs to be provided. From what I've found on the internet, other sources say 160mm which would allow a Hyper 212 EVO to fit. However this link to a forum thread at our very own Tom's provides conflicting information:

Toms Thread

Scroll down to the bottom response. This user posted almost a year after the original poster started the thread saying that it doesn't fit. So I'd venture on the safe side, or contact BitFenix and ask them to give a maximum cooler height. And maybe while you're at it, tell them to put that sort of information on their website.
 
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NateBeast

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Yes, the noise does bother me. My room temperature is 23 degrees C.
Also, techgeek, I will go and contact bitfenix.
Also, I know I made this about my CPU, but when I was playing my GPU was at 62/63 deg C. Is that a good temperature for a GPU? :) (I'm a noob)
My CPU fan was at 100% because it was set for that in Speed Fan, so how do I make it auto? Because in speed fan, if it's at 100% it doesn't seem to auto change itself. So basically my fan is always really loud, but I've been scared to put it lower, because well for one, I don't know how low I should go, and two, I'm worried about tems. Sorry for the long and confusing jumble of words in this post.
 
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Well if you leave it to the motherboard, it will control your fan speed. This is probably best. I know that SpeedFan is capable of setting up a custom fan profile, but I'm not experienced with it. However if your heatsink is struggling to keep your CPU cool at 100%, the answer isn't fan control and more with the heatsink. The other thing you could check is to see if there is dust in your heatsink. If there is, cleaning it could help to reduce your temperatures. Depending on how dirty it is, you could get a significant improvement.

As for your GPU, that is actually relatively cool for a GPU. They are designed to run at much hotter temperatures. What graphics card do you have?
 
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NateBeast

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I have a GeForce GT 740 4GB DDR3
Also, I just built my PC 1 week ago, so I don't think it would have dust by now.
My case has 1 fan at the back for exhaust, but there's no space to add a second fan. I built this same PC with the same parts, and the temps on that one seemed good, so maybe I just put the cooler on badly? I did use a different case that time, the Enermax Clipeus eca3212-bl.
I also went and set the fan speed to auto in the BIOS.
 
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techgeek

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As far as fans go in that case, it supports two additional fans at the front. Adding a fan at the front for intake could help with airflow and overall lower temperatures, though I'm not sure by how much.

The 740GT is an entry level card, it likely has a small heatsink and fan. I'm sure I've even seen passively cooled models. Those temps for the 740GT are fine.

I would leave the control of your fans on auto unless you want to invest the time to figure out how to use the fan profiling in Speedfan.
 
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GPU is fine. CPU is 'OK', but not great. It's 20 - 25 C from the thermal limit of your CPU, but TitanFall isn't a particularly stressful application. The noise is what would get to me.
 
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