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Hello and i didnt think twice about buying a new gpu since my 7770 is old a crap without dirX12 support.

So i bought a
MSI Radeon R7 370 DirectX 12 R7 370 GAMING 4G 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support ATX Video Card
(because of its massive likes in reviews and 4GB?! for $150?!?!? WHY NOT BUY DIS?!?!)

To begin upgrading i bought this card but am looking to upgrade my CPU to an 8 core soon.

My current specs are as follows:

AMD Radeon HD 7770 Saphire Edittion 1GB VRAM(OC'ed)
AMD Athlon II 630 X4 3.5GHz (OC'ed and Watercooled) [OLD CHIP I KNOW]
8GB DDR3 RAM

So what im asking is, Can i use my new card along side my Athlon until i upgrade or will i have to play the waiting game?

I know a bottleneck is very likely but i just hope by not far!

thanks in advance!

keep in mind im on a budget so if you know any CPUs that will go well with this card please dont hesitate to mention!
 
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You'll be somewhat limited by the CPU, of a certainty, but that doesn't mean you can use them together. Bottleneck does not equal "unplayable" in most cases. And, if you increase the settings to about the limits of what your card can handle, it will probably at least somewhat mitigate some of the bottleneck, by removing at least some of the need for the CPU to task faster since with higher settings the GPU itself will take longer to render.

It should be fine for now, at least inasmuch as it CAN be used, just not to it's full potential. You might suffer a little on frame rates, but the overall picture probably will be acceptable at least temporarily. The only way you're really going to know, it to play. A lot will probably depend on...
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You'll be somewhat limited by the CPU, of a certainty, but that doesn't mean you can use them together. Bottleneck does not equal "unplayable" in most cases. And, if you increase the settings to about the limits of what your card can handle, it will probably at least somewhat mitigate some of the bottleneck, by removing at least some of the need for the CPU to task faster since with higher settings the GPU itself will take longer to render.

It should be fine for now, at least inasmuch as it CAN be used, just not to it's full potential. You might suffer a little on frame rates, but the overall picture probably will be acceptable at least temporarily. The only way you're really going to know, it to play. A lot will probably depend on the titles you play as well. The less they rely on the CPU, the less it's going to affect you.
 
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GTA V, Fallout, Gmod, Far Cry, My list goes on and on. but i should see a significant increase of FPS on higher settings right? i mean this card barely supports DX10 with 1G VRAM this has 4GB with dx12 support and doubled power.

Would you know of a good pair for this card as far as CPUs go? an 8 core or 6 core 4.0+GHz should be fine right?
 
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Ok, so I'm sure we'll draw flies from both sides of the "pile"on this, but honestly, from a performance AND price standpoint, this would work even if you had a much higher end graphics card, outperforms even an 8 core AMD FX chip with a pretty large overclock and is less expensive than just about any other realistic upgrade.

I'm 100% certain it would max out the capabilities of that 370.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus B150M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($76.43 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $234.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-14 21:08 EDT-0400
 
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I honestly hate intel. After my first issues with my first rig. This was when the I series came out, My CPU burnt out within 3 months. I dont trust intel or nvidia. So im going with a FX 8 core somethin. thanks for all of your help
 
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Really?

http://www.techspot.com/review/1087-best-value-desktop-cpu/


That would be a poor decision. AMD is miles and miles behind Intel on their current generation of processors and the fact that your CPU "burnt" up is almost certainly more a testament to your lack of experience at that time or mistakes made with an overclock than they are with the processor. CPUs almost NEVER fail unless it's due to other hardware failing or user error. No Intel CPU is any more likely to fail than any AMD CPU.
 
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But guess what? i dont want to dump 300+ on a low end intel peice of crap. I can spend 300 on an amd with more stability, more cores, lower temps and better bang for your buck. i could get an 8 core FX and it still would cost less then some sh*t i7.

I dont have money to waste on some shit cpu from a shoddy company
 
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You're confused. You won't get better performance from an AMD FX 8 chip, not even if you overclock it as high as you can, except in video related processes. The Skylake i3, and even the Haswell i3's, outperform all of the FX chips in everything except a few video benchmarks or processes. If you want an FX chip, that's fine, I was using an 8320 overclocked to 4.5Ghz until about two months ago, and it did ok, but I've built i3 systems over the last year, for clients, that easily handed my system it's ass, which is exactly why I upgraded to the 6700k. I was getting tired of my heavily invested in AMD system not even being able to outgame or perform better in general application use like Photoshop, Illustrator, Audition and a slew of other applications, as I what I was seeing these "lower" end i3 systems do.

Factoring in even better performance via i5/i7, it made no sense to continue to hold on to what I was using simply for the sake of being loyal. The bottom line is that the IPC of Intel chips smashes AMD, and until they address that with a newer architecture, there really is no comparison unless all you do is edit video.
 
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