Why don't Intel and Nvidia collaborate to make an APU to rival those of AMD?

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Why don't Intel and Nvidia collaborate to make an APU to rival those of AMD? Asside from "too expensive to design" or "who would even buy"
Examples of possible APUs:


CPU: Core 2 Duo E8400 $15
GPU: GTX 950 2GB $150
Cost: $165

CPU: Pentium G3258 Anniversary Edition $70
GPU: GTX 960 4GB $200
Cost: $270

CPU: i5-4690K $200
GPU: GTX 970 $300
Cost: $500

CPU: i5-4690K or i7-4790K $200-300
GPU: GTX 980 $475
Cost: $675-775

CPU: i7-4790K or i7-5820K $300
CPU: GTX 980 Ti $650
Cost: $950
 
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The chips are designed and built using different manufacturing processes and are not compatible. Even if the designs were compatible, the GPUs you mention would not fit on the same die as the CPU, they are too big, unless you are willing to sacrifice wafer yield and have chips that are not economical to produce and sell. This is ignoring the point that was brought up earlier about guarded tech secrets neither company would likely share with each other.

There simply is no point. Intel has the equivalent of an APU, which was also pointed out, and pairing just their CPU portion with discreet NVIDIA cards has better performance than a combined part would. What exactly would be your hope from the combined chip anyway? It can't be...
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Gingerbread

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APU is what AMD use to describe their CPUs with integrated GPU, while the technology is slightly different from Intel's, intel still have a built-in gpu with their CPUs which on the new generation is not that bad. Also the project will most likely be a failure, you can't have someone building the CPU at one place and someone building the GPU which should be on the CPU at another place. If they want to do it, they have to do it together, meaning one party will get to see the technology of the other parting and all their processes, which no one would like. Also pretty sure both nvidia and intel are pretty happy with the market they are getting. I would get an i3-6100 with its built-in hd530 over any APU that AMD has on the market.
 
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JUICEhunter

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APUs from AMD aren't stopping folks from buying either discrete NVidia GPUs or Intel CPUs.

Most gamers think like this: Buy the best Intel CPU I can afford and get the best bang for buck GPU every few years keeping your CPU until it's holding you back which takes awhile in less you went too cheap on CPU.

Non-games tend to just get a CPU that cost the least but is powerful enough to handle their needs as long as possible, never getting a discrete GPU.

The APU appeals to neither of these groups.
 
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renz496

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Because the two were not from the same company. It was that simple. Plus the idea of APU was about to kill discrete gpu inctje first place. Just like sound card AMD probably thinking graphic card would end up in similar position soon so they were taking the initiatives. Except that 3D graphic still largely evolving. And probably won't stop until we get our super photorealistic graphic at 16k running at 165hz? (165fps). Not to mention gpu already evolved into gpgpu.

Anyway intel and nvidia will not going to coloborate making somethingvthat rivaling amd APU. Intel for their part rather to do it themselves rather than have to rely for nvidia tech.
 
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The chips are designed and built using different manufacturing processes and are not compatible. Even if the designs were compatible, the GPUs you mention would not fit on the same die as the CPU, they are too big, unless you are willing to sacrifice wafer yield and have chips that are not economical to produce and sell. This is ignoring the point that was brought up earlier about guarded tech secrets neither company would likely share with each other.

There simply is no point. Intel has the equivalent of an APU, which was also pointed out, and pairing just their CPU portion with discreet NVIDIA cards has better performance than a combined part would. What exactly would be your hope from the combined chip anyway? It can't be performance, as CPUs with onboard graphics are always limited by their TDP in how much GPU potential they can bring to the table. If you're otherwise looking for some sort of efficiency gain, I'm not sure you're going to get it by shoehorning an NVIDIA card onto an Intel CPU.
 
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Big reason why nvidia would be very much not in favour of this is due to them having a large name already and their gpus can be used with AMD systems also, they are not limited to Intel systems
 
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