Is this the best bang for the buck Twitch streaming and gaming rig that will be future proof???

Subsonicbassist · Mar 17, 2016

CPU

Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
$379.99 FREE $379.99 Newegg
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CPU Cooler

Corsair H105 73.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
$103.99 -$10.00 FREE $93.99 Newegg
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Motherboard

MSI Z170A GAMING M7 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
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Memory

G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
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Storage

Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
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Video Card

MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card
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Case

NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case
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Power Supply

EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
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Case Fan

Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition (2-Pack) 62.7 CFM 120mm Fans
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I already have Windows 10 Pro 64, a decent Razer mouse and keyboard (black and blue though, I would like a decent red and black one to go with this build that are cheap!!!) and this will be for 1080p gaming and likely 720p streaming

Thanks for the insight!!! I was willing to go i5 but for streaming in better quality I will probably want the HT. Any suggestions for better performance are welcome!

Barty1884 · Mar 17, 2016

It'll definitely do what you want, and well.

As far as "future proof" you have to realize, that's impossible. You can increase longevity slightly, but tech does become obsolete pretty rapidly. Picking up the top of the line CPU from the outset doesn't give you a worthwhile upgrade path - it's unlikely there will be a Kaby Lake or Cannonlake CPU on the LGA 1151 socket that will be a noticeable upgrade.

At $380 for the CPU and $200+ on the motherboard, you could consider the i7-5820K + an X99 board.
6 core + hyper threading. For the same price as the i7-6700k (and still DDR4), that would be my only real recommendation.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-SLI ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($138.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $518.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-17 17:48 EDT-0400

RCFProd · Mar 17, 2016

Bang for buck is not related to that build. Expensive AIO cooling, top of the line motherboard, Samsung 500GB SSD which is also bad price/performance rated, It's much better to take a 2TB HDD and a 250GB SSD, as they cost about the same combined as one Samsung 500GB SSD. You can shave up to 300 dollars off of this build and potentially still keep comparable performance. It is a good build, but not a good rated bang for buck build.

Subsonicbassist · Mar 17, 2016

Barty1884 :

Thanks for the reply! The reason I went with that processor is it seems to outperform the cheaper hexacore in everything except video rendering, which I likely won't be doing. As far as gaming and streaming, my thinking was that 4 cores with hyperthreading would be sufficient (let me know if you disagree!). My Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition has a decent overclock and seems to stream ok when I am playing a console game, but playing a PC game while streaming pegs the CPU. I also wanted the DDR4 and M.2 support for longevity of the system, thinking I could upgrade those in the future if needed. I also need a 500TB hard drive as I play quite a few of the newer released games and don't want to have to install them on an HDD, but I do have a 750GB and a 3TB HDD already.

Subsonicbassist · Mar 17, 2016

RCFProd :

Yeah you are definitely right, I suppose Bang for the Buck doesn't really apply here in the traditional sense. Is there a noticeable difference between loading games on the SSD as opposed to a regular HDD? I play a lot of games and I know most people use SSD's as "boot drives", but wouldn't it be beneficial for current gen games to run on the SSD as well? They are about 40GB a piece lol! I do have an old Hyper 212 I could use in the meantime, although I would need the correct bracket to carry over from my AMD build... any opinion on what type of AIO would work better in that case or be cheaper? I appreciate your response!

RCFProd · Mar 17, 2016

Take a look at this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($349.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Universal 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 535 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($118.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $966.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-17 19:07 EDT-0400

I'll get back to your later, no time to write now!

Barty1884 · Mar 17, 2016

Subsonicbassist :

4 cores + hyper-threading makes sense, but for the same price you can have an equally new CPU, 6 core + hyper-threading. Take a look in this thread, where benchmarks in various tasks are posted: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2442127

You'll see the 5820K trades blows back & forth with the 6700K, but at a significantly lower clock speed
Also note, those are measures with an OC on the 6700K @ 4.5GHz (0.3GHz above stock "turbo") comparing an OC @ 3.8GHz on the 5820K (0.2GHz above stock). Both are capable (with a bit of luck) of higher OC's than those measured.......the 5820K would win out 99% of situations if OC'd to the same speed.

Neither are bad choices as you'll see in the benchmarks, I'm just presenting an alternative and, if it were me, I'd opt for the 5820K over the 6700K

The i7-5820K and X99 chipset use DDR4, and that particular board allows for M.2 drives if you want to use them.

Other than initial load time, housing your games on a mechanical HDD really shows no difference vs the SSD, but if you want a larger main drive, that's no problem either.

Subsonicbassist · Mar 18, 2016

Barty1884 :

Subsonicbassist :

4 cores + hyper-threading makes sense, but for the same price you can have an equally new CPU, 6 core + hyper-threading. Take a look in this thread, where benchmarks in various tasks are posted: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2442127

You'll see the 5820K trades blows back & forth with the 6700K, but at a significantly lower clock speed
Also note, those are measures with an OC on the 6700K @ 4.5GHz (0.3GHz above stock "turbo") comparing an OC @ 3.8GHz on the 5820K (0.2GHz above stock). Both are capable (with a bit of luck) of higher OC's than those measured.......the 5820K would win out 99% of situations if OC'd to the same speed.

Neither are bad choices as you'll see in the benchmarks, I'm just presenting an alternative and, if it were me, I'd opt for the 5820K over the 6700K

The i7-5820K and X99 chipset use DDR4, and that particular board allows for M.2 drives if you want to use them.

Other than initial load time, housing your games on a mechanical HDD really shows no difference vs the SSD, but if you want a larger main drive, that's no problem either.

Awesome post man, thanks!!! I am gonna start a new build now with the 5820k and see what I can get

Barty1884 · Mar 18, 2016

Subsonicbassist :

Again, the 6700K is not a bad option at all, I just feel the 5820K has more positives (neither really have negatives).

As far as your build, you can have essentially the same components, although I've switched out one or two:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($379.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i GTX 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ B&H)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-SLI ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($168.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: NZXT H440 (Matte Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($108.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $987.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-18 00:28 EDT-0400

1. 250GB M.2 SSD
2. The SuperNOVA B2 750W is substantially cheaper - only semi-modular, but you'll use as the cables that are permanent anyway.
3. I assume you intentionally marked the 970 as "purchased" ?
4. I like the H100i GTX, so included it. You'd need to compare the two to see what's 'better' but both would serve the purpose well.
5. There's the argument that RAM speeds beyond 2666MHz are not fully utilized, and in some instances can even be detrimental, but I have no first-hand experience to confirm that either way.
6. Didn't include secondary, mechanical storage - just reuse what you have.

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