PC will start, but will not boot up all the way after cleaning

Trelan

Commendable
Mar 18, 2016
6
0
1,510
Hello!

Specs:
CPU - i7 940 @ 2.93 GHz
MOBO - asus p6t7
GPU - evga gtx 580
cooler - H80 corsair
PSU - antec earthwatts 500w
RAM - 64 GB
4 TB HDD

So, today I decided to clean the inside of my PC since there was a lot of dust in there. I started off by opening up the case and using a low powered leaf blower. A LOT of dust came out immediately, and I made sure not to physically touch the end of the leaf blower to any parts of my PC in order not to risk any electric failure. I also held down the fans with my free hand in order not to cause overspinning of the fans. After using the leaf blower, I disconnected my 6 and 8-pin power connectors from my GPU and took out the GPU from the case. I opened it up and dusted the heatsink with a can of compressed air. (I know that this voids warranty, but I have done this on numerous occasions in the past without any problems). After dusting my GPU heatsink and GPU fan, I put the cover back on it again and put the screws on. Lastly, I decided to replace the 7 year old thermal paste on my CPU with some of the thermal paste that I bought (I got the thermal grizzly kryonaut). I have done this process in the past, albeit on several other computers. After dusting around the CPU and applying fresh thermal paste on the clean CPU surface, I put everything back together and powered on my PC.

This is when I knew something was wrong. Every time I powered on my PC prior to today, my PC cooler radiator fans would run at 100% power for around 1-2 seconds before quickly dropping to 20% power or so. Then I would see the windows logo and my PC would boot normally. My keyboard also has this annoying blue light that turns on automatically by itself every time I boot on the PC. But today, after I pressed the power button, my fans jumped up to 100% power and stayed at that speed. My keyboard light didn't turn on and my monitor only shows the message "dvi no input signal".

Things that I tried doing:
- I double checked that I put my CPU back into its socket correctly. I made sure the corner arrow of the CPU is aligned with the arrow on the mobo socket.
- I checked my CPU radiator fans, my GPU fan, and my PSU fan and all of them are spinning.
- I checked that all wires are connected and are securely in place.
- I tried putting my my dual link dvi cable into the 2nd port of my evga gtx 580, but I still get the dark screen and the same message.
- I randomly noticed that my 8-pin power connector to my GPU has 1 missing pin in the corner. I don't know whether it fell out today during the cleaning process or it's supposed to be missing, but my GPU is powered on and it is getting enough power to have its fan spinning, so I think it's not that big of a deal?
- I reseated my RAM sticks, even taking all of them out with the exception of only one.

*Take note that my GPU has been "acting up" for several years now with occasional overheating and crashing (my screen would randomly go black, I would put my hand to feel how much air is coming out from the back of my GPU only to find out that the fan stopped working entirely). However, after installing MSI afterburner and setting my own fan curves, my GPU now idles at 51*C and runs at around 67-75*C under load. My GPU fan runs at 85% speed under high load, which is the maximum speed it can go to. On the other hand, my CPU has been running flawlessly for the past 8 years or so under cool temperatures (35-40*C).

Any help would be appreciated in figuring out what could be causing this. Could it be the motherboard going faulty after the dusting?
 
Solution
Try reseating the CPU, this sounds odd to me. Make sure all connections are firm. If you think it's your PSU then try the paper clip test. If nothing works then I'd say it's the motherboard.

Trelan

Commendable
Mar 18, 2016
6
0
1,510


I've read that people have done it before without a problem, so I decided to give it a try myself.
 


People have also barreled down Niagra Falls and survived...

I would not be surprised if you fried something doing it. For now, remove the GPU and try running the system without it. If it starts up normally, busted GPU or PSU might be the case
 

Trelan

Commendable
Mar 18, 2016
6
0
1,510


Yeah, I had a spare radeon hd 6850 which i replaced my 580 with. My monitor screen is still black and my keyboard doesn't light up. I'm pretty sure at this point its the motherboard being fried.
 


That can certainly be a mobo or PSU issue. Try testing the PSU if you have a spare, if not, time to replace parts and never do something that stupid again. If you want to clean, get one of these http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/259157-REG/Giottos_AA1900_Rocket_Air_Blower.html , it has zero ESD and actually far more powerful than a fullsized leaf blower! (pressure wise)
 

The_Man12

Honorable
Mar 22, 2014
224
0
10,760
Try reseating the CPU, this sounds odd to me. Make sure all connections are firm. If you think it's your PSU then try the paper clip test. If nothing works then I'd say it's the motherboard.
 
Solution

Trelan

Commendable
Mar 18, 2016
6
0
1,510


I just did the PSU paper clip test, and the PSU was operational. I will now try reseating my CPU and will report back here after that.
 

InvalidError

Titan
Moderator

The "paperclip test" tells you nothing useful beyond "the PSU is (at least) not completely dead."

Most fans will run fine on extremely noisy supply voltage anywhere from 6V to 20V, fans "working" only tells you that the PSU is providing something within that range on the 12V rail. Ideally, you would want to at least know the AC (ripple+noise) and DC voltage on the supply rails before jumping to the "PSU is functional" conclusion.

If your PC was packed with dust as you said, the PSU is likely similarly stuffed. While the EA500 should be a decent quality PSU, being stuffed with lint might cause components to overheat, deteriorate and possibly fail altogether. A few years ago, my EA650 started randomly shutting down from overheating because my case's PSU air filter got clogged.
 

Trelan

Commendable
Mar 18, 2016
6
0
1,510


Oh my god it worked!!! So i opened up my CPU and took it out, then I noticed that there was something attached to one of the golden CPU pins. The pin itself wasn't bent or anything, but I suspect one of the pins from the CPU socket came lose and became attached to the golden pin on the CPU itself. So i used a magnifying glass and a knife and removed the piece of metal. I then reseated the CPU and voila!!!

Is it weird that the CPU socket would still be functional even if it's missing one of the pins? Anyways, thank you all for the help! I'm so glad my PC works again :bounce::bounce:
 


You should replace the motherboard if there's socket damage. Will the CPU work? Usually yes if it's an NC or GND pin, but you might have taken out a pin necessary for something else that still hasn't shown up.
 

Trelan

Commendable
Mar 18, 2016
6
0
1,510


Yeah, you are right. I'm surprised everything works so far even with a missing socket pin. I'll definitely look into ordering a new motherboard though.
 

InvalidError

Titan
Moderator

Power too: there are hundreds of power pins on modern chips and overclockers push over twice the rated power through them. Overclockers would not be able to do that if the number of power pins was within 5% of the absolute minimum.