Motherboard gets no power but HD, DVD drive and PSU power on. Can’t boot.

sihaiweijia

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Mar 19, 2016
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Problem: My computer will not power on. When I flip the switch on the power supply, the case fan in the front, the hard drive and the power supply fan power on, but the motherboard, CPU and video card do not. No lights on the motherboard light up, and no computer components that are powered through it power on, except the POST card (see below for details). The computer does not power on overall and I cannot even get to BIOS or a boot menu.

Background: I was upgrading to Windows 10 and installation repeatedly stalled at 25% overall, 86% through the file transfer process. I found instructions from those who had experienced that problem before that disconnecting peripherals and non-essential drives, then installing Windows 10, would take care of the problem. I did not completely power down the computer before disconnecting the SATA cable from the DVD drive. The computer has not been able to power on since. I have heard no beep codes because my motherboard does not have a speaker.

This was the first computer I built and it has worked well since 2013, with occasional hiccups like this.

What I have done/tried (in addition to everything listed here: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-steps-posting-post-boot-video-problems)

1- Completely power off the computer by disconnecting power and pressing the power button for 10 seconds, then resetting bios.

2- Removing all hardware except CPU and one stick of RAM, then repeating step 1.

3- Removed, then replaced the CMOS battery, then repeating step one.

4- Checked for short circuits on the board and between the board and the case.

5- Confirmed hard drive worked/data was intact by plugging it into another computer

6- Bought POST Test Card. It plugs into the motherboard and two lights come on (-12V and +3.5V), which the accompanying booklet explains mean that the motherboard is getting power. Nothing displays on the 4 digit display that is supposed to show error codes. There are no other signs of power to the motherboard.

7- Bought and installed a motherboard speaker to see if it gives beep codes. It does not.

8- Replaced CMOS battery, repeated steps above. No change.

During all of these steps I’ve worn one of those static bands that clips to the computer and your hand. It is possible but less likely that someone else in my household touched the exposed components and damaged them through static.

Next steps? I've exhausted what I know to do and would be very grateful for any insight you all have. What is the problem?

System specs:

ASROCK Z87 Extreme4 Motherboard
Intel Core i7-3770 CPU
16GB DDR3 RAM
Video card (NVIDIA, don't remember the specific model)
Corsair CX750M Power Supply Unit
2TB Western Digital Green HD
Windows 7 OS
 

combinebasic

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if you follow the guide you link here, then same problem you found I suspect the two parts of your computer have problem, one is the MOBO, the mobo can't trigger the standby power came from PSU, second the PSU if this PSU can power the HD and other drives but how you sure that its normal voltage? To check this remove your PSU in system case and power on it using a paper clip by shorting the two wires the green and black, if it will power-up use a voltage ohmmeter then check the voltage output which is DCv 12, 5, 3.3 or the very simple use a borrow good PSU with same specs and try it in your mobo. Now to isolate the mobo to a good PSU, remove the mobo then test it outside in system case, connect the PSU to the mobo and power on it using a flat screw by shorting the two pins of the power on. See if it will post or not then go back here.
 

sihaiweijia

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Mar 19, 2016
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Combinebasic, thanks so much for your suggestions. I took them. Update below.


1- I removed the PSU from the case and tested it using the paperclip test. It powered on fine.
2-I do not have a voltage ohmmeter. If I need one still, let me know and I will order one.
3- I isolated the motherboard to a good PSU (also tested with the paperclip test) and was able to power it on using the motherboard's power button. It apparently does not have the posts you mentioned, so I didn't have to use a screwdriver. I had only the CPU and one stick or RAM in the motherboard.
4- I tested the original l power supply with this same configuration (1 stick of RAM and the CPU) and it powered on when I hit the motherboard's power button. It gives me the following error codes (in quick succession):
40
4F
62
67
69
71
78
d7

40, 4F, 78 and d7 are the ones which last the longest. The rest just flash up very briefly. I have looked some of them up and at least some of them deal with things that would be solved if the computer were completely assembled (d7 is that no keyboard or mouse are detected, for example)

4- I powered down the computer and tried to attach other components to the PSU, but when I tried to power back up, it would not turn on at all. I can get it to turn on by (a) powering down; (b) disconnecting everything besides motherboard power from the PSU; (c) resetting BIOS; (d) removing the CMOS battery for 30 seconds. After I take these steps, I can power on PSU and motherboard, but nothing else is connected to the motherboard. What do I need to do?
 

sihaiweijia

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Mar 19, 2016
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combinebasic, thanks for your continued help. I was able to power the computer back on. I am posting the details of what steps worked below in case anyone else runs into the same issue.

I cleaned off the motherboard (it was not very dirty - just a little dust, so I did not use paint thinner) and connected only the hard drive, CPU, and one stick of RAM. I then reset BIOS and removed the CMOS battery. The computer turned on to the BIOS screen, but would not allow me to boot windows. I reset the bios again, including removing the CMOS battery, hit reset on the motherboard, then powered on from the motherboard. I was able to get first to the BIOS settings, then boot to Windows. After that, I replaced the components one by one, starting with RAM. Whenever I added a new component, I would power down completely, but it wouldn't power back up unless I reset rest the BIOS, removed the CMOS battery for 30 seconds or so, and then powered on from the motherboard. Everything is now connected and the computer is back to full health.

One resource which was helpful in figuring out what the error codes related to (various components not being installed on the motherboard) was this: http://www.asrock.com/support/faq.asp?id=334 It helped me rule out other problems, and I didn't see it in the other posts I read before submitting this problem, so I'm linking it here.

Thanks again for your help. I was about to pull my hair out.
 

USAFRet

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Paint thinner?!? Really?
Paint thinner?

What is this supposed to accomplish (aside from possibly killing the actual motherboard).
 
Thie guy combinebasic gives advice which gets worse and I'm feeling a twitch in my ban finger.

I don't often call a poster out in open Forum but we have a responsibility to warn folks off taking suggestions such as cleaning their motherboard with paint thinner seriously.