Building new computer, Is it compatible?

Billiam123 · Mar 20, 2016

This is my build

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/YLbVrH

-CPU
AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor
-CPU Cooler
Cooler Master Hyper 212X 82.9 CFM CPU Cooler
-Motherboard
Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
-Memory
Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
-Storage
Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
-Video Card
Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card
-Case
Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case
-PowerSupply
Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
-Operating System
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 OEM (64-bit)
-Sound Card
Asus Xonar DG 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card

I knew nothing before starting this and I tried to make a computer that could play any games on decent settings (used witcher 3 reccomended settings as benchmark) I mostly want to know if all these parts will work well together or will anything cause problems?

superninja12 · Mar 20, 2016

yes it is, is it good? No.

Mac070 · Mar 20, 2016

Much better gaming build :
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/fxZr23

Billiam123 · Mar 20, 2016

superninja12 :

Mind if I ask why it isn't good?

Not that I doubt you, I knew nothing before I started looking up parts to make a computer so I'm very novice so if you could help me understand anything like what is bad and why and what I could do better, It would help a lot.

Mac070 · Mar 20, 2016

Did you check out my computer build I put together for you ? Way better performance .
I'll tell you what's wrong , for starters the processor will bottleneck high end graphics cards and isn't great . The cores in the amd fx series are very weak .
Secondly the Kingston ssd you have is not good quality . I recommend you get SanDisk or Samsung but not the v300 series.
Now I see you have tons of storage but I would get 1tb and when you run out just pick up another tone . I would change the brand to a Western Digital because the brand is better for the money and they have been around longer
The graphics card is great . But .5 of it is slow . AMD recently came out with new graphics cards and provide out standing performance .... They are making a huge comeback in t he market .
Now the power supply you choose is very poor . Corsair makes very poor quality power supplies . Anything that's EVGA I would recommend .

Billiam123 · Mar 20, 2016

Mac070 :

I did and have been checking it out since first read it trying to figure it out (Like I've said I'm new to this, I have to research everything to make sense of anything takes a while)

CPU, I don't understand how quad core with 3.2ghz is better then 6 cores with 3.5ghz, I don't know what any of it really means just that 6>4 and 3.5>3.2, I don't want to bottleneck but I just don't get how lower numbers will make it better,

Would this be a good SSD? http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam

I don't get what you mean by Western digital is "better for the money" when 2T is $140 and its only $99 for 2T Seagate.

Only reason i choose that Graphics card is because of this website http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-the-witcher-3 said it was one of the best for the price at running witcher 3 which i think is a demanding game (So i used it as a benchmark to be able to at least run witcher 3) I don't know what ".5 of it is slow" means and was hesitant of the MSI radeon because reviews saying it needed more power and gets hotter and pcpp said there was a issue with the size of the video card in the case. But it does say its 8gb which is 4 bigger then the GTX so it looks better but I don't know.

To be honest the only reason I went with Corsair is because it has 318 reviews, EVGA only has 30. Both equaling 4.5 stars, Why does Corsair have so many more good reviews if its very poor quality?

Sorry if that's to many questions I'm just trying to understand what your saying better.

turkey3_scratch · Mar 20, 2016

Mac070 :

You'd recommend the horrible 650 NEX G, the poor quality EVGA 400W, 430W, and 500W units? What about the poor quality 750 NEX G or 750 GQ? Or the poor quality NEX B units?

Corsair makes poor quality units? Have you seen the RMx and RMi series? Or the HX, HXi units? What about the great TX?

EVGA and Corsair don't make power supplies, they sell them, and they use a variety of vendors for their different units. Both sell junk and great stuff.

turkey3_scratch · Mar 20, 2016

Billiam123 :

Because they aren't professional reviewers, they are people who don't understand power supplies the way professionals do. They say things like, "It supplies good power." That's the kind of stuff they say, very false stuff. Professional reviewers get into the meat and bones, they use professional equipment to read the voltage stability, the ripple and noise, hold-up time, transient responses, turn-on transient testing, etc. They open up the units, look at soldering, capacitor quality, how well it is built. They test things like the units protections and make sure they don't blow up.

The CX series uses Chinese capacitors from Capxon and at times Samxon. That is their primary reason for being poor quality.

turkey3_scratch · Mar 20, 2016

Billiam123 :

Because there is so much more to processors than just frequency and number of cores. There is architecture, and Intel's architecture is so far ahead of AMDs ancient architecture than a 3.0Ghz Intel CPU will have better single-core performance than a 4.5Ghz AMD CPU. There is so much architecture to it that you have to take core count and frequency very lightly.

Billiam123 · Mar 21, 2016

turkey3_scratch :

Ok but where do I find good reviews by professionals? Also I can't tell if you are agreeing or disagreeing with Mac's power supply suggestions.

What (preferably cheaper) would be a power supply you would recommend for me?

I was going off cores and ghz because I have 0 idea of anything to do with architecture at all..... Do you have recommendation and/or a website i could find to check what is the best architecture (By some kind of list or something without having to know anything about CPU architecture.)

superninja12 · Mar 21, 2016

my professional insight here.

games don't utilise more than 4 cores, and since intel focusses on a single stronger core and amd on more cores.
intel is the way to go, also the last amd processor was around 2012, and now their platform is kinda dead and u got no upgrade options.

poor quality hard drive and a bad powersupply.
with this build well in 1 year it would be slow as hell and your components could be damaged by your bad powersupply(almost guaranteed).
Also sound cards do not improve sound that is noticeable anymore unlike the past.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($112.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H170A-X1/3.1 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card ($124.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($58.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $575.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-21 02:09 EDT-0400

hope 600 dollars was what u aimed for otherwise we can change a lot.

Billiam123 · Mar 21, 2016

superninja12 :

I was originally hoping for $600 but I don't think I can with decent specs so I'm aiming for 1k but i keep ending up with $1500 builds.... Also some of the parts weren't for sale in the Australian pcpp. (Like the power supply you recommended) http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/t6cFFT

I'm not sure why it would be slow as hell in a year? What exactly would make it slow?

I want to be able to play any game on high settings, So I'm, skeptical of the Dual core you recommended seems weak because a lot of places and you yourself say games can use 4 cores, So if i want to play the best games on high settings wouldn't I need 4?

I dunno anything about motherboards, But memory storage and video card just seem like cheaper versions which is good, But according to things online Video cards are one of the most important things not to get cheap to be able to play games so wouldn't the Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card be good (even if more expensive)

As for power supply it doesn't have any prices in on pcpp in australia so I don't think I can get that power supply, Would there be any other power supplies you would recommend that I can get in aus? http://au.pcpartpicker.com/parts/power-supply/

Mac070 · Mar 21, 2016

Did you check out my build link above ?
Corsair used to be good when they were partener with seasonic.... Right now i would not recommend them.... Seasonic only makes some power supplies for them. Would I recommend an EVGA 430, 500, 400? SURE I would. If someone is on a tight budget its better than chineese power supplies ..

turkey3_scratch · Mar 21, 2016

Mac070 :

Well those EVGA PSUs suck, just as bad as the Corsair CX series, if not worse. You are very biased. Have you seen the great units CWT makes?

Try ushowing me a review that shows those EVGA units are good.

Mac070 · Mar 21, 2016

Now if someone is on a budget which most people are .... Having to choose these two, Would you tell them to get a EVGA 500B or Raid max power supply ? I run my raid max 700W and its equal to the new CX700M . I love corsair but I would take the 500b over the CX series any day .

turkey3_scratch · Mar 21, 2016

There should be no budget. All those units suck. S12ii 520W, they can get that PSU and lower the rest of their budget. Budget PSUs suck.

Mac070 · Mar 21, 2016

Ok I'm not going to start a fire . EVGA makes some very good products and some you need to avoid

superninja12 · Mar 21, 2016

sorry mac, but youre not right it happens.
we come here all to learn, however you were right that his build wasnt good but your build wasnt good either

Billiam123 · Mar 21, 2016

superninja12 :

Well with all this talk about power supplies (a lot of which goes over my head) I still dont know which is a GOOD powersupply for my build....

turkey3_scratch · Mar 21, 2016

What are the current specs of the rest of your components right now? Still the same as on the top, or did you adapt recommendations?

Billiam123 · Mar 22, 2016

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/tBWCsY

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.00 @ Umart)
Motherboard: Asus H170M-E D3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.00 @ Centre Com)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($110.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($129.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card ($475.00 @ Centre Com)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 Red ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($115.00 @ CPL Online)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 OEM (64-bit)
Total: $1445.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-22 15:54 AEDT+1100

That's what I'm ready to buy at the moment (Still nervous about power supply because of this thread though)

turkey3_scratch · Mar 22, 2016

Well we all agree on this thread the CX 600 is a poor choice. With your build, the Seasonic S12ii 520W would be sufficient. I'd recommend, for a bit more money, the 550W EVGA G2 if you can grab that.

superninja12 · Mar 22, 2016

^ and a h170 mobo if possible.

Billiam123 · Mar 23, 2016

turkey3_scratch :

I couldn't find a 550W EVGA G2 on PCcasegear, Since I'm buying all my parts from there to save on postage, I went with S12ii 520W (There is a 620W if I should get that? I dunno if 520 is more then enough power or It would be safer to get 620?)

superninja12 :

Why h170 mobo? Mobos are the most confusing part of this so I find it hard to figure out what mobos do and whats good about them, I just went for cheapest one with the plugs i need (I think) So why is H170 better? What makes it good? Can you give me any information about it at all?

turkey3_scratch · Mar 23, 2016

S12ii 520W was a good choice.

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