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Hello,

I am building my first 3D designing and rendering pc and i would like to have professional suggestions on the best suitable (preformance and price) hardwares i will be buying for my PC.

The work ill be doing is:
modelling and rendering still images on Cinema 4d
After effects work.
 
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In addition to my recommendations, you need to be doing a lot of reading to confirm that I'm understanding what you want.

If you want a 390, you would need a more powerful PSU, especially if you overclock. I run an overclocked 4790K and an overclocked GTX 980 on a 550 W PSU. For the 390, you need to increase to 650W. However, you need to check carefully to ensure that the GPU is suitable for your workstation needs. Gaming GPUs have limitations in high performance CAD and floating point work.

Overclocked, your will be running up to about 200 W. This http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2734&page=6 shows the performance of a similar air cooler. Liquid cooling is not needed and air is quieter and more efficient.
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8vnVrH
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8vnVrH/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1220 V5 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X150-PLUS WS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($145.99 @ Mac Mall)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($58.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Samsung 950 PRO 256GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($177.99 @ B&H)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($62.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($48.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM (64-bit) ($124.75 @ OutletPC)
Total: $963.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-24 09:24 EDT-0400

there no video card as the newer pascal dropping in a few weeks. there no price info on them yet.
 
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1. Where are you? Not all products are available everywhere and the relative prices are different?
2. What budget in local currency. Taxes make things problematic comparing things
3. Are you using this system to make money? Affects robustness and general recommendations.
4. Link to site(s) where you might buy from.
 
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basilk

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1. i am in Germany
2. budget 1500 euros
3. yes i will be making projects for living
4. Amazon, need more recommendations on other better or more specialized stores

Thanks ill be interessted in any sugesstion or advice you may give
 
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basilk

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woow that can suit my budget even after adding it up with the GPU, thanks ill be considering your list for my purchase
 
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The reason I ask about earning is that small improvements in throughput, even 5%, can translate into more billable hours, so recoup the cost fairly quickly and then everything after is gravy.

Here's a base system

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor (€388.95 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-C14S 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€74.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard (€208.94 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€74.46 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Crucial MX200 250GB M.2-2260 Solid State Drive (€85.11 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€52.02 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H21 ATX Mid Tower Case (€37.71 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Super Flower Golden Green HX 550W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€74.90 @ Caseking)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHDS118-04 DVD/CD Drive (€12.11 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM (64-bit) (€99.75 @ Mindfactory)
Total: €1108.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-25 15:02 CET+0100

The GPU recommendation is beyond my experience with your software. A consumer gaming-style card might be enough, but you will need a Pro card if you are doing a significant amount of floating point work.
 
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basilk

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i have ´made a research about processors and found out that the intel i7 4790k Quad core 4.0 GHz is better than the 5820k in Performance check out:
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-5820K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4790K
for a less price 360 € check out:
http://www.amazon.de/Intel-Core-4790K-processor-BXF80646I74790K/dp/B00L8JZRE6/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1458948510&sr=1-2&keywords=i7+4790k

would you agree with this research or am i missing something here?
 
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DonkeyOatie

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No, it is not better for what you are doing.

The comparison is done at stock clocks. you will be overclocking to improve throughput. There the speed, conservatively, will be 4.4 Ghz to 4.7Ghz, but the 5280K has six cores to four and for your work, a comparison is better:

i7 5820K = 100 X 1.00 x 6 x 4.4 =2640
i7 6700K = 100 x 1.05 x 4 x 4.7 =1974

CPUBoss downgades the i7 5820K because it lacks an iGPU, which won't matter when you are using a discrete GPU, and because its six cores use 140 W compared to the 91w of the four cores of the i7 6700K. CPU boss is of limited value and works best when comparing very similar CPUs. For Gaming, the 6700K is better, for what you want to do, it is not. The 5820K is intended for the sort of thing you are doing..
 
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basilk

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ok ill be going with the 5820k
1.would i be needing a more watts power supply when overclocking and a liquid cooler too??
2. what do you think of adding a r9 390 8GB GPU and can i be able to overclock it aswell?
3. would i be needing case fans?

Sorry as i said its my first build and i am still a noob
So please give me some detailed info.
 
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In addition to my recommendations, you need to be doing a lot of reading to confirm that I'm understanding what you want.

If you want a 390, you would need a more powerful PSU, especially if you overclock. I run an overclocked 4790K and an overclocked GTX 980 on a 550 W PSU. For the 390, you need to increase to 650W. However, you need to check carefully to ensure that the GPU is suitable for your workstation needs. Gaming GPUs have limitations in high performance CAD and floating point work.

Overclocked, your will be running up to about 200 W. This http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2734&page=6 shows the performance of a similar air cooler. Liquid cooling is not needed and air is quieter and more efficient.
You can use a 390, and you can overclock it. A GTX 980 or 980ti might be better, depending on CUDA and other things you might needs to do.

I chose a very cheap case. You have sufficient budget for a Phanteks Enthoo Pro. you might need a couple more fans. Keep some budget and get them as you discover they are necessary.
 
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