would this build be good for moderate pc gaming /school work

Infirms · Mar 28, 2016

I'm planning my first build so part are a bit confusing my budget is 600 max and I prefer to get parts from the same merchant or 2 not multiple merchants will it be able to play league osu blade and soul guild wars 2 fall out 4 the division dying light and dark souls 3 when it launches

Here is build
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Qjc2gs

sizzling · Mar 28, 2016

Do you have a separate HDD? 120gb is not enough on its own.

You should get 2x4gb RAM and not 1x8gb. This allows the ram to run slightly faster in dual channel mode.

Infirms · Mar 28, 2016

sizzling :

I have an external 1TB hdd and will add a internal hdd later the board only supports 2133 I was going with 2400 but no point if it just clocks it at 2133 right ? Is that board good in terms of quality this is my first build

genthug · Mar 29, 2016

That wasn't his point regarding the mem - you have a 1x8GB stick in your kit. Go with a 2x4GB pairing instead of just the one, your computer will run faster.
Workstation: yeah that'll be fine. You're not doing anything all that intensive on it? What is "school work"?
Gaming: Some of those games, yeah. Fallout 4: you will have issues. Your CPU at the moment is a MAJOR bottleneck. And on that mobo, given that it's cheap, you will probably have absolutely nothing to do with OCing. The division: eh, you could probably play it but don't expect anything major. DS3: yeah, it doesn't seem to be all that intensive.
Basically, don't expect 30+ on newer games unless you OC the hell out of that chip. Older games like league or games that are not as demanding like ds you should be alright on. But, again, don't expect anything spectacular.

Infirms · Mar 29, 2016

genthug :

In your opinion would bumping to a i5 and z170 board be worth it for a build I won't be upgrading for a few years so I want it to last

genthug · Mar 29, 2016

If you want it to last a few years gaming, that would probably be wise. Would also be wise as stated above^ to grab an internal HDD, externals fail much, much easier and more frequently.

Infirms · Mar 29, 2016

genthug :

Can you do a quick build I'm willing to drop a bit more if it means it's worth it in the long run and by school work I mean just using word power point and stuff basic things

genthug · Mar 29, 2016

While I am not happy with this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M8zBsY build, that cuts your costs. It takes out your SSD, takes off an aftermarket cooler, downgrades your GPU to a 750ti so that you can have the i5 and be at about 650.
Keep in mind that while you're playing games, your GPU is going to matter more. But, for an i5, that's the build that fits your budget. I would get a Devil's Canyon to save a bit of money (which was not shown on PCPP, I'm not leaving it out) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117372
with a z97 board which is in PCPP. That goes to around $640 not accounting for OS, peripherals.

Infirms · Mar 29, 2016

Thanks man build looks good might save up for a better gpu like you said I have win 8 with code on a usb boot device monitor keyboard mouse just need the tower it's self

genthug · Mar 29, 2016

Just a sec... I have a second build I just did for slightly more.
Allows you to have a better CPU than the i3, allows you to overclock said cpu, and allows you to keep the GPU you put in it.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/d4JjP6

Infirms · Mar 29, 2016

genthug :

Hmm might go with this seems more reasonable for gaming and a good cooler from the reviews Gina decide between the both ether way thanks for the help been reaserching parts for about a month lol I'm a total noob big step from my current PC a dual core amd apu labtop lol

madmatt30 · Mar 29, 2016

Stick with the original i3 + 380 build.
Far far better balance than an i5+750ti, that combo to me is just plain nuts!
The comment about can i3 holding you back to 30fps is totally wrong , it plain won't , a 750ti will definitely limit you to that though.I have nobidea why a 750ti is recommended when the 7 360 is cheaper & completely & utterly owns it
http://pcpartpicker.com/search/?cc=us&q=r7+360

If you really want to go amd then this is a decent use of your budget.

PCPartPicker]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gHr3Vn]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($138.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: RAIJINTEK THEMIS 65.7 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($38.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 380 4GB NITRO Dual-X OC Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z3 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($42.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $545.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-29 02:33 EDT-0400

genthug · Mar 29, 2016

Basic explanation of both builds: AMD FX8350--I will not lie, I'm an AMD butt buddy. I love their stuff, specifically for their OC ability and for their price. I'm running a 4 year old FX6100 at 4.2GHz air cooled stable right now. The issue with going with an 8350 is that it leaves you no room to expand. Your only options are: 8370, 9320, 9590. I would not EVER IN THE CASE OF THE UNIVERSE recommend a 9000 series FX chip. Going with the i5, you have a very clear upgrade path to an i7 4790k which actually operates better than a 6700k. That being said... If you go the i5 route, you're pushing 225 into a cpu, and then possibly upgrading for another 350. You will get what you pay for with intel. But that's the unfortunate catch. You have to pay for it. Regardless which build you go with, your GPU is still likely to be your bottleneck. intel chips are very efficient in gaming, and that fx chip is essentially the best fx chip you can get without rolling the dice in the 8370 silicon lottery. On that rig you will be able to run new games on med-high (probably high) at around 50-60FPS with a bit of graphical tweaking. Mainly, turning SSAO and MSAA off and just leaving it at FXAA.

Infirms · Mar 29, 2016

madmatt30 :

Would u recommend I use a asks board or gigabyte might go with a i5 6500 in the end a bit more but better for the games coming out right ? And it won't bottleneck the 380 ? but is the 6600 k worth it if I decide to upgrade later on down the line having a hard time deciding buying the parts tomorrow after I get home from school

genthug · Mar 29, 2016

^ I would also listen to him, I have never owned an i3 so

take his word for it. I wasn't too thrilled with the 750TI either, but that fit the i5 bill.
+1 on the AMD build. The only thing I might change is the mobo, given that there's a bit left over for an upgrade in that range. You can get that to overclock to high 3s if not 4 air cooled. But, a good mobo will aid that

madmatt30 · Mar 29, 2016

I5 6500 if you can afford one would be a great choice.
I just wouldn't compromise on the gpu for anything , a 4gb 380 is a solid gaming card & should be the minimum really for the latest titles .
Buy what your budget will allow CPU wise - its as simple as that.
The i3 6100 is a solid little CPU, an i5 is better.

Even an amd fx 6300 is solid as a rock for 50-60fps on newish titles should you decide the amd route.
The amd ud3p board for under $70 is a bargain, I've had my 8320 @ 4.8ghz on that board- no need to spend more.
But yes an i5 4460 or i5 6500 is straight out going to give you the best performance out of the box with no messing around - albeit at a slightly premium price point.

genthug · Mar 29, 2016

Hmm. Alright, yeah that would take the cake then. I have a slightly more expensive Asus M5A99X EVO board that I OC my 6100 on to 4.2

Intel is nice if you want high end gaming, but with the route that you're going (midline) and with your budget, I would choose AMD personally. Their CPUs for their price are going to give you the performance you need without breaking you.

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