Newb has questions and advice for a gaming PC going to build. Please help. lol

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Okay... I said I was a newb in the topic, but I'm decently informed with some components, not so much others.

I had some help picking out components on my OLD pc, and my friend and I put it together so it's not like I did everything myself. It was built around 2006. It still works, but I doubt I could use any of its parts on my new one. lol Here's the basics:
Asus striker extreme mobo
Core 2 duo 3.0ghz
2 8800gtx SLI
8gb of crucial ddr2
800 watt PSU
Full sized gigabyte tower

I have some questions and I'm honestly asking for advice on certain things. As well as recommendations on what to get for my new pc. I've heard all kinds of arguments about AMD or Intel is better for a gaming pc when it comes to a cpu. It would be great to spend much less on an AMD, but if it's going to hold my pc back, I'll bite the bullet and either the Intel Skylake i5 or i7.

Some other info to consider... I have a budget of around $1300. I can go over (I'm thinking I'll likely have to) but it'd be nice if I didn't. I don't feel good about water-cooling, so I'm going to stick with a full tower and plenty of ventilation. Fan noise doesn't bother me in the least. I don't care if it sounds like a jet engine, as long as everything is cool. Also, I'm ONLY getting the case and components. No monitor, keyboard, mouse, or anything like that.

*As for my NEW pc:


-I'm DEFINITELY getting a 980 Ti. ( I'm not sure what brand ) I'm thinking Gigabyte, but whatever is the most reliable, air-cooled gpu with a good warranty. Maybe EVGA. I dunno, some input would be appreciated.

-CPU I don't have a ton of knowledge with cpus. Like I said above, AMD would be great due to price, but if Intel's relatively new Skylake series blows it out of the water, then I'd go with that. Another issue is that I've heard that a majority of games aren't cpu intensive, and that someone could easily get away with an i5 instead of an i7.
I'm not sure how true that is, but what I do know is that I don't want a Skylake i5 if it's going to bottleneck my rig, whatsoever.

MOTHERBOARD- Although I have a moderate understanding of how they work, but I have no idea as to which one I would need and which one is good vs crap. While I enjoy tinkering, I'm not even close to an overclocking fanatic. So it would be great if I didn't have to shell out a bunch of extra cash for features I don't need.

PSU- I'm not sure how many watts I'd need, or if there is a certain kind I need. It would be great if I could use my old 800, but I'm not sure if it would be compatible.

RAM- I'm definitely getting DDR4. I don't know the importance of timing speeds and all of that. I also don't care if it looks flashy, as long as it's reliable and it works. I also don't know how much to get at first, since that's incredibly easy to upgrade. I was thinking 16gb to start with?


-As I said way above, I also want a full-tower case. I need good cooling and having plenty of room is always good. Also, I'm going to stick with a good, regular HDD. When I make more money, I'll always be able to get a SSD later on.

*I'm sure I'm forgetting things... But I typically do my research (and read reviews) at newegg, then purchase the products through Amazon, since I'm a Prime member. I've also used pcpartpicker. But if anyone knows some super secret way to get these components cheaper, PLEASE tell me. I may be purchasing an expensive pc, overall, I'm broke as a joke.
Like I said, I'm relatively new to building my own gaming rigs, so PLEASE don't be too harsh on me. I'd LOVE to hear feedback from anyone that feels like enlightening me or helping me on this project. This is my first post to this particular website, but in my experience, the PC community is almost always helpful. I GREATLY appreciate anyone who takes the time to read all of this and helps me or gives me advice. =)

Thank-you, everyone.
I'll respond to anyone shortly.



 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($132.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card ($676.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($63.95 @ Directron)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1331.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-30 17:36 EDT-0400

Would be perfect.
 

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Aces19 made you a great build. Check his out. However, there are a few things I want to tweak on it:

Case: You want a good case with good airflow? Take a look at these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133192 *This one looks awesome, but is pretty expensive. It's a full tower too. If it's too expensive, or you don't like the look, here are some alternatives:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353028 *This one by DiyPC is a really nice looking case with LEDs and a color variety. It's only 90 bucks and is a full tower, so I suggest it. The build quality I'm not sure of, not even sure if it's really important, but it's a great cheap case, so I suggest it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139024 *This one looks boring, goes for 150 bucks, but the Corsair Obsidian has a great reputation for being a reliable case. The 300 reviews on Newegg will tell you

All these cases are full tower, so don't worry about that part. Next I want to tweak:

Power Supply: Considering you want a 980 Ti, I suppose you have some money. For the power supply, unlike what aces19 picked, I'd spend a little more and buy the best build quality on the market, the EVGA G2 SuperNova.

Graphics Card: Will you be doing 1080p gaming? If so, the 980 Ti is a waste of money, and overkill. If you're doing 1080p, grab a GTX 970 or Radeon R9 390, both go for $300 cheapest, but each does better in different games. If you're doing 2k (1440p) or 4k gaming though, you won't regret the 980 Ti
 

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Couldn't have said it better myself :p

Anyways, this is all pretty good. One thing I'd personally do is maybe go for a 390x if you will be gaming in 1080p. Should max everything out, but will still give you all the power you want.
 

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Considering he's got enough money, that's a great choice, especially since it gives better future proofing, as well as better gaming if he ever plans to up his resolution. Plus video editing likes to use the GPU now, and you can never max out video editing. Obviously this only being relevant if he video edits
 

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Yeah he just has to make sure he has an adequate PSU (at least 650w. Preferably a G2 or an AX PSU from corsair) and nice cooling in his case. Maybe add some corsair fans.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.95 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($132.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($86.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390X 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($398.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($63.95 @ Directron)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA P2 650W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($25.88 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (2-Pack) 39.9 CFM 120mm Fans ($25.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1206.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-30 18:56 EDT-0400
 

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I'm debating your fan choice. The Corsair fans have a decibel level of only 1.4 dBA lower than the NF-F12, which is practically no difference. The NF-F12 also has a higher RPM, 1500, which makes up for more than the extra decibel. On the other hand, it costs about 6 dollars less, so it makes more sense to get it
 

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I mean, the thing about the corsair fans is that they look nice. The red rings would go perfectly with the coincidentally red and black parts that I picked out.. Also, the case has a side panel window so you will see the fans. Although looks isn't everything, its good to see that the pc is nice and color coordinated, on top of the fact that those fans are cheap, especially since a two-pack is only 25$.
 

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His choice, performance over looks. I choose performance, that's why I got the NH-D15 over the Cryorig R1 :p
 

acleverdemise

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Wow, I didn't expect so many answers so quick! Thank you so much!
But to everyone thinking that a 980 TI is overkill on a 1080p display.. you are absolutely correct. However I'm also getting a 4K hdtv and have access to a 1440p monitor.

So I DEFINITELY want the 980 TI.

I have to let my dog outside real quick, then I will reply to you all. lol
 

acleverdemise

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Wow, I didn't expect so many answers so quick! Thank you so much!
But to everyone thinking that a 980 TI is overkill on a 1080p display.. you are absolutely correct. However I'm also getting a 4K hdtv and have access to a 1440p monitor.

So I DEFINITELY want the 980 TI.

I have to let my dog outside real quick, then I will reply to you all. lol

 

acleverdemise

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Wow, I didn't expect so many answers so quick! Thank you so much!
But to everyone thinking that a 980 TI is overkill on a 1080p display.. you are absolutely correct. However I'm also getting a 4K hdtv and have access to a 1440p monitor.

So I DEFINITELY want the 980 TI.

I have to let my dog outside real quick, then I will reply to you all. lol

 

acleverdemise

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Wait, so the 390x performs better and is more future-proofed than the 980 ti?
Another concern I have about the 390x is I've heard it runs VERY hot.

 

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I'm about performance ALL the way. Honestly, I don't care what it looks like. That's why I'm a bit confused that someone said the 390x is more future-proof than the 980 ti.

Also, would the skylake i5 6600k cause any kind of bottleneck with top of the line (or future) games?

 

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Nope, no bottlenecking problems. We also didn't mean the 390x is more future proof than the 980 ti, we meant it more future proof that the 390.
 

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Okay, I understand what you meant now, aces19.

Thank-you everyone for your quick and helpful responses.

I'm going to begin ordering parts Monday, so I'd still be happy to hear other peoples opinions or builds. And I'd be happy to answer any questions anyone may have for me.

***** One last thing... What do you think I should do with my old pc? All of the components work fine, and I'd hate to let them sit around and collect dust. I don't have any family or friends that could use a hand-me-down pc. Is there any money to be made from selling them? I mean, I highly doubt someone would even want them.
It's crazy that I don't know what to do with a PC that was worth well over $1500 in it's time. Welcome to the world of electronics. lol
 

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6600k is one powerful silicon chip, that will handle any powerful graphics card you get. It'll handle anything from all the way down to a 30 dollar GPU up to a 2000 dollar Titan Z. So no issues there. The 390X on the other hand has great price to performance, and, while NVIDIA cards tend to use less power and run cooler, heating won't be a problem. Plus, under load, a NVIDIA card will basically hit the same TDP as an AMD, resulting in similar heat output. If you're still worried about heat, grab yourself a 3 fan 390X, it'll fit fine in your full tower case :)