Amd fx 8350

casperkubena · Mar 31, 2016

Im planning on buying a new pc and i have been thinking of getting a 980 but just now i found a good deal for a pc with a Amd radeon fury and a Amd fx 8350 and im just asking, is the 8350 good enough for gaming at 60 fps on ultra setting on most of games? i would have gotten a i5 4690k but with this deal i found you must have a amd processor. so im asking, is the fx 8350 good enough for gaming at 60 fps at ultra settings?

suck3rs · Mar 31, 2016

I think you will be fine with that processor for that card, but make sure to pair it with good ram. Figure out what speed you want on the ram and then try to get the lowest timing you can.

Enderegg · Mar 31, 2016

I won't recommend that CPU. It's really 'old', and open world games and such do benefit a lot from the CPU.

Supernova1138 · Mar 31, 2016

Greatly depends on what you're playing. There are some games out now where no AMD FX CPU can maintain 60FPS constant regardless of what GPU you have eg. Fallout 4, Grand Theft Auto V, Arma 3. I really would not recommend getting an AMD processor for gaming at this point if you can afford an Intel build, even if they are offering you a really good deal for the AMD processor. The FX 8350 is already struggling on some titles and its future viability is entirely dependent on how well developers make use of DirectX 12's multithreading capabilities, something that is rather uncertain at this point.

sizzling · Mar 31, 2016

I wouldn't get a 8350, in CPU heavy games it struggles. The cpu is quite old now

suck3rs · Mar 31, 2016

Supernova1138 Telling someone that no FX chip can't keep above 60fps is not true.

Supernova1138 · Mar 31, 2016

suck3rs :

The FX 9590 can't hold above 60FPS constant in some games, so the chances of getting 60FPS solid on in those games on an FX 8350 are pretty much nil unless the OP gets a golden sample chip that is capable of getting past 5.0GHz within safe voltage and thermal limits or is going to do a suicide overclock with liquid nitrogen.

Granted, this doesn't apply to every game out there, and there are plenty of GPU bound titles where AMD's processors are still okay if you're not targeting a really high framerate like 90+ FPS constant, but AMD's current offerings are starting to show their age, and they frankly weren't the greatest gaming CPUs to begin with back when they were new. If someone wants to run games at ultra at 60FPS and be able to keep doing that without needing another CPU upgrade (plus moving to another platform entirely) within the next year or two, then they're probably going to need to look at an Intel processor.

Ecky · Mar 31, 2016

The first things that come to mind are Guild Wars 2, and basically every strategy game ever made. FX CPUs will drop into the 20's and even teens in some areas in GW2. Granted, no Intel CPU will be able to maintain 60fps where an FX CPU is getting 20, but 35fps is still a lot better than 20fps.

suck3rs · Mar 31, 2016

@Supernova1138
So what you are telling me, in The Division running with most settings maxed. That on my FX 9590, with a HD 7870 2GB, I never drop below 36fps but I am usually 40-50's fps. If I upgrade my GPU to like a Fury X, I could not maintain +60fps?

suck3rs · Mar 31, 2016

@Ecky
GW2? wasn't that game made with DX9? Most of DX9 games don't support multiple cores. Why not use a current example. Like Planetside 2, which was developed in DX9 and I did have drops to teens fps because of my CPU at the time (Phenom II x4 965). It was actually patched recently to support multiple cores. Guess what, never dropped below 30fps on my Phenom.

AreFlame · Mar 31, 2016

I would recommend buying the FX-8370 which is a bit newer and invest in a good cpu cooler and overclock it to around 4.6-4.8 and you will see a good improvement, it will improve the single core performance by some amount and also be able to maintain higher fps in different scenarios.

Now i would normally recommend Intel but this is a good choice too within your current situation, and it should work just fine with what i said, although you will struggle in games that uses two cores or even less with the fx, but the current and new titles most of them is four cores so shouldnt be a problem, i run my fx 8370 with two r9 290x's in 4k, its doing very well!

Supernova1138 · Mar 31, 2016

suck3rs :

I didn't list The Division and I haven't been bothered to look at the benchmarks for that game so I don't know just how CPU heavy it is, nor did I say the FX 9590 can't hold above 60FPS in every single game out there. That said, there are enough titles out there now that the FX CPUs struggle with that it probably isn't a good idea to buy one for a gaming rig at this point unless your budget absolutely forces you to.

As for the OP's dilemma, I'd take a 4690k with GTX 980 system any day of the week over an FX 8350 with a Fury system, even if it did cost a little more. I'd get a much more consistent experience of great performance across all games rather than good performance in some games and terrible performance in some others.

spdragoo · Mar 31, 2016

http://www.techspot.com/review/734-battlefield-4-benchmarks/page6.html

Well, there's at least one game where a stock 8350 can get to 90+ FPS, & that's with an older R9 290X card.

And even with some slightly newer titles, apparently with the "right" GPU (i.e. GTX 980/980Ti, possibly even

http://www.techspot.com/review/1128-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-benchmarks/page5.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/917-far-cry-4-benchmarks/page5.html (note that even the older Phenom II X4 & X6 chips are capable of getting 60+ FPS)

http://www.techspot.com/review/1096-star-wars-battlefront-benchmarks/page3.html (note that since a stock 8350 can hit 100FPS @ 1080p with the GTX 980Ti, based on the GPU performance it should be able to hit 60FPS even with an R9 280X)

http://www.techspot.com/review/1006-the-witcher-3-benchmarks/page5.html

A lot is still going to depend on your GPU in these games, but while an FX-8350 might not be at the top of the pack, the performance is going to be more than sufficient.

suck3rs · Mar 31, 2016

@spdragoo

Yeah, I ran into a guy in WoW running 2 x 980ti. He was running an FX 9590 and came from an i7. He said that his 9590 was handling the SLI 980ti's better than his i7.

madmatt30 · Mar 31, 2016

suck3rs :

if it as an old i7 760/860 maybe true but doubful on anything past sandy bridge mate.

Regarding the division - its massively gpu heavy not cpu heavy,your 7870 is holding back fps there not your cpu.
I can run it solid 50-60fps on high with a 970 & an overclocked 6300 - & I can 100% guarantee that its the 970 holding fps back in my rig not the fx cpu

if youre running a 60htz screen then the 8350 will sit at 50-60fps on just about any major title - what it wont do is push 80fps+ if you were looking at going for a screen with a 100htz+ refresh rate - for that scenario it has to be intel 100%

suck3rs · Mar 31, 2016

@madmatt30
I am not your mate, I am married.

I gained ~15-20fps in that game by upgrading from Phenom II x4 965 to a FX 9590. If you went to a FX 9590 you would do 60fps constant.

And I never said my GPU wasn't the part holding me back. You do understand though that the jump from an Phenom to an FX changes a lot more things than just processing power right?

jeffredo · Mar 31, 2016

I have an FX-8320E @ 4.2 Ghz in one of my PCs. My main PC is an i7-4790K and two others have i5s (i5-4690k and i5-4590). Any of the Intel PCs would wipe the floor with the FX in most any game - new or old (I've swapped the same GTX 970 between them to test). If you're primary use is gaming its worth an additional $40 or so for an i5 4590 or i5 6500. You can get a modestly priced motherboard and can use the stock Intel cooler. They will beat the FX-8350 even when its OC'd to the max and using an aftermarket cooler, all the while using much less power and putting much less heat into the room.

suck3rs :

Calm down. Its British/Aussie/New Zealand slang for friend or buddy.

suck3rs · Apr 1, 2016

jeffredo :

Friend is another word I don't take lightly. I know what mate means btw, it is still fun to mess with people.

When I am playing games, I don't experience slow downs. Benchmarks don't show my processor being crippled. It doesn't get maxed out. I frankly don't see the problem.

casperkubena · Apr 3, 2016

thanks everyone for answering and helpin mge! I have made my mind up, pay a little more for an pc with an i7 and an 980. (worses gpu better cpu)

casperkubena · Apr 3, 2016

Supernova1138 :

Greatly depends on what you're playing. There are some games out now where no AMD FX CPU can maintain 60FPS constant regardless of what GPU you have eg. Fallout 4, Grand Theft Auto V, Arma 3. I really would not recommend getting an AMD processor for gaming at this point if you can afford an Intel build, even if they are offering you a really good deal for the AMD processor. The FX 8350 is already struggling on some titles and its future viability is entirely dependent on how well developers make use of DirectX 12's multithreading capabilities, something that is rather uncertain at this point.

thanks for the help.

suck3rs · Aug 26, 2016

Ecky :

Playing World of Warcraft, even today, I don't get FPS drops like that. I call BS.

Ecky · Aug 26, 2016

suck3rs :

Where did I ever mention World of Warcraft?

EDIT: And what's with the 4 month old thread necro?

suck3rs · Aug 26, 2016

Ecky :

suck3rs :

Where did I ever mention World of Warcraft?

EDIT: And what's with the 4 month old thread necro?

Wait..... I have been asleep for 4 months?!!!!!

That is the type of game that you described as having issues with the FX 9590.

Ecky · Aug 26, 2016

suck3rs :

Ecky :

Wait..... I have been asleep for 4 months?!!!!!

That is the type of game that you described as having issues with the FX 9590.

Guild Wars 2 is not World of Warcraft. World of Warcraft is not a strategy game. Fact: GW2 runs like crap on AMD CPUs.

suck3rs · Aug 26, 2016

Hmmmmm World of Warcraft is not a strategy game either...... It is an open world game....MMORPG... You know the most popular one in the world.

Ecky :

suck3rs :

Guild Wars 2 is not World of Warcraft. World of Warcraft is not a strategy game. Fact: GW2 runs like crap on AMD CPUs.

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