Hardware Problems With My CPU(i think)

Joshywild · Mar 31, 2016

I recenlty ran a stress test of my CPU in AIDA64 for about 1 hour and the constant tempreture was mostly about 80-85º. has this damaged my CPU?

for anyone curious i ran it because of problems with my PC, random shutdowns mostly. also really high fan speed on my stock fan for the AMD FX 8350.

Specs -
Xigmatek recon case
GTX 960
AMD FX 8350
Stock CPU fan
Stock case fan (only fan in the case and it set up at the back to push air out)
16GB RAM
950 GB of HDD storage (dont know the name of the drive)

is there anything that is causing high temperature? i feel like i cant use the power of my rig without killing my hardware?

N3rdR4ge · Mar 31, 2016

1. you want to go off of the CORE temperature when measuring the heat of the cpu. you should not go over 62c with this chip. your brother doesnt know what he is talking about if he believes 85c is safe. 90c is immediate shutdown. running a cpu at high temps for long periods will shorten its lifespan. don't run aida again if it is hitting 85c core.
2. you should not overclock with a stock cooler if you aren't experienced. slight tweaking a few .01 ghz is fine, but you absolutely dont want to touch any voltage settings.
3. 25c-50c is a good temp range as long as you are reading core temps.
4. a newer cpu has very little chance of failing, especially if it had been working fine previously. cpu is usually the absolute last suspect when diagnosing a computer. you would need to post your entire system accurately here and give us some more info about the shutdowns for a better recommendation. id suspect a low end power supply may be causing issues, based on how low budget your motherboard is. most people don't particularly care for biostar as a motherboard brand.

Joshywild · Mar 31, 2016

Specs -
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/Wild1145/saved/#view=4pktt6

The shutdows have not been as comman latley but still present occasionally. the most recent being a few days ago where i was just downloading a few files( large files though, about 8GB if i remember right) while listning to a youtube video. i didnt hear my CPU fan spinning suddenly. i immeadialtly try to take the panel off to see if the fan stopped spinning but before i did, the thing just shutoff. i could also smell what i thought to be melting plastic, whatever it was it was not a pleasent smell and im sure was not caused by any outside interference. i waited about 30 mins until a reboot and all worked as normal after that and i havent crashed since, but i think thats mostly because i have been too afraid to do high performance stuff in fear of a reapeat of what happened. its worth notnin that at the time i was constantly looking at HWmoniter while using my PC because crashing had happened before and thats when my CPU temp in HWmoniter started rocketing before shutdown. i did find one problem with this though. AIDA64 and HWmoniter both read different tmepretures for my CPU and i feel my motherboard could have something to do with it. in HW moniter there is a section called "TMPIN2" which is labbled under my motherboard yet syncs up with the CPU temp of AIDA64. and my CPU temp in HW moniter as im writing this(not doing anything other than writing this and music) is ranging from 14-37º while the TMPIN2 is about 34-36º. i just feel like these are innaccurate because i have had readings fluctuaute huge amounts and had a TMPIN2 temp of -120º some how. if there is a way to send files/picturs i could send you a HM moniter screenshot as well as the AIDA64 test result?

sidenote - sometimes doesnt come out of sleep for some reason

Benjiwenji · Mar 31, 2016

Use AMDOverDrive to measure thermal margins.

Max safe temps for Fx are 62core/70socket. The CPU begin throttling itself when exceeding these temps.

80-85c is over max temp, thus, can result in damage. Do not stress Fx 8350 with stock CPU.

However, it seems like you have got more problems than just the stock cooler. I suspect your mobo being more of the problem.

What are you using for a mobo? While you're at it, tell us your PSU as well. I don't know why folks insist on omitting the most import parts when describing their system.

N3rdR4ge · Mar 31, 2016

pcpartpicker is down, ill have to come back later to view your specs.

also, just use this small program called coretemp to monitor.
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

Benjiwenji · Mar 31, 2016

N3rdR4ge :

With respect, the AMDOverDrive is generally more accurate for temps at load than CoreTemp/hwmonitor/speedfan.

Joshywild · Apr 1, 2016

My Specs are as follows - (No Items have been overclocked or modified in any way)

AMD FX 8350 4.0Ghz 8 Core Processor
Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 8GB(1 x 8GB) DDR3 -1600 Memory
Corsair ValueSelect 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Seagate 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive
EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB Superclocked Video Card
Xigmatek Recon ATX Mid Tower Case
Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

Andrei-Florin Gogan · Apr 1, 2016

Joshywild :

In my mind it's definitely a cooler issue. CX Series from Corsair are not a good quality PSU but will have no problem running non overclocked components. Also the motherboard has only 4+1 power phase and you should not even think about overclocking your CPU on that motherboard. Get a better CPU cooler and you will see a massive improvement. I also agree that using anything else other than AMD Overdrive for FX chips, will give you inaccurate temperature readings.

Benjiwenji · Apr 1, 2016

The cooler is bad but unlikely to cause crashes because the CPU will throttle itself after 62c to maintain cool.

Gogan is correct, and I think the likely suspect is your mobo with 4 power phase. It is not adequate to power the 125w AMD Fx-8xxx CPU. Only 990 boards, 970 UD3P, 970 Gaming, and 970 extreme fatality, all with 8+2 power phase, are sufficient in powering the Fx-8xxx - 9xxx CPUs.

Joshywild · Apr 2, 2016

So i think a new motherboard is definiatly is order. i think i will keep the power supply as i feel no need to overclock anything.
do you know of any good motherboards and CPU coolers?. im very new to PC so i've not much knowlage of this sort of thing. thanks for the diagnosis by the way!

madmatt30 · Apr 2, 2016

Cooler

raijintek 0P105255 - Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00E5YTGIY/ref=cm_sw_r_em_awd_Jj9.wbF4G2SJG

Board

Gigabyte 970A-UD3P Motherboard (AMD 970, SB950 DDR3, SATA, RAID, ATX, Gigabit Ethernet LAN, Socket AM3+) Rev. 2.0. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00F5R9O46/ref=cm_sw_r_em_awd_il9.wbV1K3GHG

They're your 2 best buys at the moment & will handled an 8350 wonderfully.

Is your case the zalman z9 then ??

If so you need to drop a front intake fan in there too.

Benjiwenji · Apr 2, 2016

Joshywild :

Best mobo with small budget, these two are the best 970 boards.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($85.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $85.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 13:20 EDT-0400

or

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($92.20 @ B&H)
Total: $92.20
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 13:21 EDT-0400

And just about any 990 boards

Best air coolers

For light use,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.50 @ Newegg)
Total: $34.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 13:24 EDT-0400

For overclocking the 8350

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($88.64 @ Newegg)
Total: $88.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG R1 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $89.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 13:25 EDT-0400

For somewhere in the middle,

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU Cooler: CRYORIG H5 Ultimate 76.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $46.99
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-04-02 13:25 EDT-0400

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