Raid-0 array missing a disk after BIOS update.

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After doing a BIOS update on my MSI Z170A GAMING M5 Mobo, my Raid 0 messed up. According to Intel RST, the Raid-0 array is missing one of the two HDDs and that missing HDD is available/working. Is there a way I can re-connect the "missing" HDD to the Raid array so I don't have to recreate a new one?
Here's a screenshot to show what I am seeing on the Intel RST http://imgur.com/gallery/Ye9aVhu/new
 
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might be time to recreate and restore from a backup.

The only option is to attempt to add the disk to the array, but that may attempt to reinitialise the array.

You might have more luck doing that from bios rather than from windows.
Every few years, I give RAID 0 a shot to see if "anything has changed" and if it is still totally useless on the desktop. When I build the box I'm typing from, went with two 256GB SSDs (RAID 0) and two 2TB SSHDs (RAID 1).

It was fun getting nice benchmark numbers but as an AutoCAD workstation / Gaming box, it brought nothing tot he table but headaches. In addition tech support was not an option as they do not support RAID for the SSDs and their utilities won't work when it's used. They also advised that aside from synthetic benchmarks, the array would be slower in many tasks, something i since confirmed.

But, as I continued to have to "mess with things" after 3 months, I decided to break the arrays. Even the RAID 1 array I split and use a free software utility to back up / Sync one SSHD to the other.

While I don't get the "Wow" synthetic benchmarks, the system is more stable, requires less user intervention and performance is equal and even sometime better in things I actually do.

So while I can't provide a solution other than rebuilding the array or upgrading Intel RST (which I assume you did already), in short, I'd take this opportunity to reconsider RAID 0 and place OS and applications on one, fav games on the other. As a side note, I have the same game installed on the 2nd SSD and one of the SSHDs.... measuring the time it takes to get in the game and complete an action on both installs, the times were exactly the same. There's also a back up OS install on an SSHD and on a 7200 rpm HD. Boot times are as follows:

HD = 21.2 seconds
SSHD = 16.5 seconds
SSD = 15.6 seconds
 

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Honestly, the only reason I went with a Raid -0 HDD setup was because for the price per GBs , it was way cheaper than buying a separate 2TB SSD for my Steam Library ($600 versus $100 for the 2 HDDs).
 
2 TB SSHD is $85 and is faster, much faster.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dx001

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5748/seagate-desktop-2tb-sshd-st2000dx001-review/index9.html

With the increasing market penetration of the SSD, a lot of users have now had the chance to upgrade their PCs. Now we all know while SSDs offer massive benefits in terms of performance, they have always lacked in one area - capacity.

A situation like this left most power users using an SSD for their operating system, while still running a secondary mechanical drive for storage and games. A typical setup such as this would allow the OS to load very quickly, while leaving you stunned at how long it took to load a game. With the introduction of the Desktop SSHD, Seagate has again switched up the game, offering a substantial performance boost to those of you in this situation.

Now, if you are one that chooses to use a single drive for your operating system, and have held onto your standard desktop HDD for the benefit of capacity, the Desktop SSHD is calling your name. The 8GB of NAND cache in conjunction with Seagate's application optimized algorithms should offer a tremendous performance boost, and again the more you use, it the faster the drive will get, as it learns how you use your system.

In every case seen here today, the Seagate Desktop SSHD excels, whether it be a synthetic point and click benchmark like HD Tune or ATTO, or even application traces via PCMark 8, the drive just performs.



This is an 8 or 9 year old THG post .... nothing has changed, tho some of the links are likley now dead..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID_0#RAID_0

RAID 0 is useful for setups such as large read-only NFS servers where mounting many disks is time-consuming or impossible and redundancy is irrelevant.

RAID 0 is also used in some gaming systems where performance is desired and data integrity is not very important. However, real-world tests with games have shown that RAID-0 performance gains are minimal, although some desktop applications will benefit.[1][2]


http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2101
"We were hoping to see some sort of performance increase in the game loading tests, but the RAID array didn't give us that. While the scores put the RAID-0 array slightly slower than the single drive Raptor II, you should also remember that these scores are timed by hand and thus, we're dealing within normal variations in the "benchmark".

Our Unreal Tournament 2004 test uses the full version of the game and leaves all settings on defaults. After launching the game, we select Instant Action from the menu, choose Assault mode and select the Robot Factory level. The stop watch timer is started right after the Play button is clicked, and stopped when the loading screen disappears. The test is repeated three times with the final score reported being an average of the three. In order to avoid the effects of caching, we reboot between runs. All times are reported in seconds; lower scores, obviously, being better. In Unreal Tournament, we're left with exactly no performance improvement, thanks to RAID-0

If you haven't gotten the hint by now, we'll spell it out for you: there is no place, and no need for a RAID-0 array on a desktop computer. The real world performance increases are negligible at best and the reduction in reliability, thanks to a halving of the mean time between failure, makes RAID-0 far from worth it on the desktop.

Bottom line: RAID-0 arrays will win you just about any benchmark, but they'll deliver virtually nothing more than that for real world desktop performance. That's just the cold hard truth."


http://www.techwarelabs.com/articles/hardware/raid-and-gaming/index_6.shtml
".....we did not see an increase in FPS through its use. Load times for levels and games was significantly reduced utilizing the Raid controller and array. As we stated we do not expect that the majority of gamers are willing to purchase greater than 4 drives and a controller for this kind of setup. While onboard Raid is an option available to many users you should be aware that using onboard Raid will mean the consumption of CPU time for this task and thus a reduction in performance that may actually lead to worse FPS. An add-on controller will always be the best option until they integrate discreet Raid controllers with their own memory into consumer level motherboards."

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1001325
"However, many have tried to justify/overlook those shortcomings by simply saying "It's faster." Anyone who does this is wrong, wasting their money, and buying into hype. Nothing more."

http://jeff-sue.suite101.com/how-raid-storage-improves-performance-a101975
"The real-world performance benefits possible in a single-user PC situation is not a given for most people, because the benefits rely on multiple independent, simultaneous requests. One person running most desktop applications may not see a big payback in performance because they are not written to do asynchronous I/O to disks. Understanding this can help avoid disappointment."

http://www.scs-myung.com/v2/index. [...] om_content
"What about performance? This, we suspect, is the primary reason why so many users doggedly pursue the RAID 0 "holy grail." This inevitably leads to dissapointment by those that notice little or no performance gain.....As stated above, first person shooters rarely benefit from RAID 0.__ Frame rates will almost certainly not improve, as they are determined by your video card and processor above all else. In fact, theoretically your FPS frame rate may decrease, since many low-cost RAID controllers (anything made by Highpoint at the tiem of this writing, and most cards from Promise) implement RAID in software, so the process of splitting and combining data across your drives is done by your CPU, which could better be utilized by your game. That said, the CPU overhead of RAID0 is minimal on high-performance processors."

Even the HD manufacturers limit RAID's advantages to very specific applications and non of them involves gaming:

http://westerndigital.com/en/products/raid/http://westerndigital.com/en/products/raid/



 
You knew the risk of raid 0 when you set it up. If you're knowledgeable enough to play with raid, then you should also know the risks of updating the bios - and how you can brisk a MB or lose settings. With both these in play... I think you played with fire and got burned.. it happens. Rebuild the raid, and restore or re-download your games, it's not worth the time and effort for something that can easily be downloaded again.
 

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Actually, I didn't know updating the BIOS would mess up the RAID setup. I just knew that if you lost/damaged one HDD/SSD, you lost the whole thing which. I already re-built the array and downloaded the games. (I just had built the system so I didn't lose any saved game date thank god)