What to chosse ROG Maximus VIII ranger or hero with 16 or 32 GB of ram ?

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Hello everyone, I am in a middle of upgrading my PC to latest Skylake chip. I am going to replace the CPU, motherboard and RAM. Currently I am using Intel DP67BG extreme board, I5 2500K and 126 gb og 1600mhz memory. This Sandybridge setup is serving me for 5 years already, yet it is starting to show its age in never CPU demanding titles and occasionly stuters a bit as games are getting harder and harder. I am going to use the res tof my rig which consists of next components:
2x GTX 780 ti in SLI
2x 2,5 TB WD drives
1x Samsung 840 EVO SSD
1x Crucial SSD 240 GB
Corsair AX 850 PSU
Fractal design ARC XL case with EKWB watercooling (2x 240mm rad, 1x120mm rad a total of 8 Noctua fans.)
For CPU I choose I5 6660k which I will of course oveclock to at least 4,5 GHZ, I am running my 2500k at 4,7 Ghz for fift year and for block I am using EKWB Full nickel EVO supremacy which is probably the best block on the market.

For memory I set my scope on latest Gskill Trident Z 3200Mhz 16GB kit consisting of 2 sticks and here comes my first question…will 16 Gb suffice for next 3-4 years or shuld I buy 2 kits for 32 Gb of total ram ?
And probably the hardest choise the motherboars, since Intel is not making its own stuff anymore and Supermicro is not awiable in my county I am looking up gor either Asus ROG Maximus VIII ranger or hero. Ranger costs 200 eur while hero is 240, I have been looking at diferences of both boards and aside from Hero having 2 SATA ports more (I do not need them as I have a total of 5 drives and wont be going for more, maybe even less with bigger drives) some plastic shield and iluminated logo I do not any difference among them. If the hero has stronger VRM or oveclocs better I would took it but if it looking nice I will go for ranger. If anyone knows the difference among those two I would be greatfull to know what differciates those two bords and how much memory shall I got 16 or 32 gigs ?
 
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You've found the major differences in those boards. The VRM is different, but I can't say better or worse (though I would assume that the hero is slightly superior). If you get 32GB of RAM, don't buy two sets as they won't be matched. Get one matched set of 32 if that is your plan. If the the rig is primarily for gaming, it's highly unlikely that you would need more than 16GB in the next several years. Only if you do Photoshop with large files would I consider 32GB.
I see little difference between the two.
You might find them on newegg and select a comparison between the two.

On ram, I see little reason for more than 16gb unless you have some app like photoshop that is coded to use lots of ram.

A 2 x 8gb kit should be plenty. And do not go overboard on ram. 1.2v 2400 speed is plenty; there is little advantage to faster.
Read this on skylake ram scaling:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1478-page1.html

Faster ram needs more than 1.2v and that eats into the power profile for overclocking.

And... do not pay more for fancy heat spreaders, they are mostly marketing.
Of use only for record seeking ram overclockers.

If you buy ram, do not buy separate kits; that is not supported by any ram vendor
Ram must be matched, and it is costly to match 4 sticks.


As of 2/16/16
What percent can get an overclock at a somewhat sane 1.40v Vcore.
I5-6600K
4.9 11%
4.8 38%
4.7 70%
4.6 83%

After the quality of the chip, It turns out that the limits to overclocks is not temperature control. but what level of vram are you willing to tolerate.
It seems like that is 1.4v.
At that vram, a modest tower type air cooler will do the job if you want to simplify your build.



 
You've found the major differences in those boards. The VRM is different, but I can't say better or worse (though I would assume that the hero is slightly superior). If you get 32GB of RAM, don't buy two sets as they won't be matched. Get one matched set of 32 if that is your plan. If the the rig is primarily for gaming, it's highly unlikely that you would need more than 16GB in the next several years. Only if you do Photoshop with large files would I consider 32GB.
 
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So instead of going for a high end 3000mhz memory with 1,35 in 2x8 kit for 120 eur, I shall probably just go for 2400 mhz with 1,2 volts in 4x8 kit to get most of it, and still I have EKWB watercooling for ram so this ram not having a heatspreaders will allow me to put that on...I see that anthing above 2400 operates the same so I will go for 32 gigs and be futureproff just as I was with 16 back in the 2011.

Yeah on cpu I will be ok with 4,5 ghz as temps and voltage also metters to me...I am user who will use this machine for at lest 3-4 years as I did with my sandybridge one...I see that ranger can oveclock it just as vell as other boards and as 2 more stas are all what reall hero has over it I am going for ranger and save 40 bucks which vill go into ram instead. I also rather kinda max out ram now and call it a day. I am just kinda surpriced that among ranger and hero is so little diference, when someone unscrew the plastic peice on hero even heatsinks are no different than rangers ones.