possibe bottleneck ??

ominous11 · Apr 4, 2016

Hey guy's I have a question about my 2x980 ti's ( EVGA SC+), I've been recently playing the division and with one card I get about 60fps on ultra setting ( at 1080p ) with SLI I get about 110-120fps. I thought these were great numbers until my buddy bought a new rig shortly after the division came out.

My buddy bought the evga classified ti and he telling me hes getting an average of 100fps on the single card. This beats my single card and almost matches my SLI.

The only thing I was thinking and where my question comes in, could my i5 4670k (oc too 4.4) be bottle-necking my SLI at all ? My buddy is running a skylake cpu ( i forget what cpu off the top of my head )

CTurbo · Apr 4, 2016

You and your buddy would have to be using the same exact monitors and playing the same exact games on the same exact settings for the comparison to be fair and/or relevant. A single 980ti should get more than 60fps on every game at 1080p. It's probably an issue with your settings and/or drivers. Your i5 is not bottlenecking your system.

Sidney_52 · Apr 4, 2016

ominous11 :

No, I am very sure that it is not bottlenecking your graphics card. Try updating your drivers or seeing if something isn't registering sometimes it has an issue and like above poster had said it is not an exact fair comparision. No worries man

ominous11 · Apr 4, 2016

CTurbo :

Well we don't have the same monitor but we both run 1080p and 60hz. We are both playing the divison on the highest of setting. We both run the latest nvidia drivers.

What setting are you referring too ??

CTurbo · Apr 4, 2016

You both have 60hz 1080p monitors???

bignastyid · Apr 4, 2016

Very unlikely its your CPU itself. Seems the division is not a cpu heavy game.
http://www.techspot.com/review/1148-tom-clancys-the-division-benchmarks/page5.html
I'd say you have a problem elsewhere. According to a couple other benchmarks a single 980ti should be getting around 80FPS maxed @ 1080p. I suggest using DDU(from safe mode) to nuke the drivers and settings then reinstall the latest Nvidia driver from geforce.com. If you are running win 10 you may want to check your performance settings and makse sure the cpu is set to 100% for the max.

ominous11 · Apr 5, 2016

CTurbo :

We are running different brands of monitor's but the spec's are similar. Both our monitors are 1920x1080, 1ms reponse and 60hz refresh rate

bignastyid :

OK i'm just getting home and I'll try a fresh restart of the drivers. You mentioned checking the performance setting in windows 10. How do I do that ?

bignastyid · Apr 5, 2016

Right click the start button and choose power options-> on the power plan you are using click change plan settings-> click change advanced power settings-> click the plus next to Processor power management-> click the plus next to Maximum processor state-> make sure they are set to 100%.

CTurbo · Apr 5, 2016

Why in the world are you using two 980tis for a 60hz 1080p monitor? That is a waste of ~$600 video card.

ominous11 · Apr 5, 2016

bignastyid :

Ok I downloaded DDU and ran from safe mode, and reinstalled the latest stable nvidia drivers ( not beta ). This didn't seem to help at all. Thanks for the suggestion !

bignastyid :

Also I tried this and I was sitting at 100% but I was also using balace setting. I switched it to high performance mode. This didn't seem to help much either.

ominous11 · Apr 5, 2016

CTurbo :

haha I knew this was coming but I can't buy everything at once

I figured I rather but the card before I upgrade my monitor to the 1440p rog ultra wide 34 inch 100hz. If I did it the other way then I would have to lower the graphic setting to get decent fps.

edit: I also got the division for free with the purchase of the card so that help make my descion quicker over what to buy.

bignastyid · Apr 5, 2016

Can you try the cards inividually?

Asusprime · Apr 5, 2016

to find out if your i5 is bottlenecking your 980ti SLI install MSI Afterburner and enable its "On-screen-Display" monitoring tool.

go to settings first then Monitoring Tab

Within Monitoring tab din the green tab named "Active hardware monitoring gragh" click on the ones that you want shown while playing The Division.

then click on the check box called "Show in On-Screen Display" (its a checkbox close to bottom)-------you have to do this for every single one you want separately.

make sure to get all the ones with GPU/CPU Temperature, GPU/CPU Usage and Framerate.

While I play Assassin's Creed Unity it shows me that my GTX 780 is at 80% while my lowly Phenom ii X4 965 is at 90-100% all cores (i am waiting for Zen AMD CPUs dont judge me please)

ominous11 · Apr 7, 2016

bignastyid :

I'll try tomorrow night when I get the free time after work !

Asusprime :

OK I tried this for about 15 minutes thru some heavy gun battles and I was gettting cpu 1-4 at 100% usage with an average temp of 70c. Both gpu's were getting about 95% usage

ominous11 · Apr 8, 2016

I have checked both card individually and I get about the same average of FPS

bignastyid · Apr 8, 2016

" cpu 1-4 at 100% usage with an average temp of 70c. Both gpu's were getting about 95% usage"s sound like a small cpu bottleneck. Im guessing you are running in multiplayer mode and its more cpu intensive than single player where the benchmarks where done. Seen another posts with similar issues in that game but not solutions as of yet.

ominous11 · Apr 8, 2016

bignastyid :

The game doesn't have single player mode but yahh the benchmarks were online in open world. When I would run the "dungeons" I would get GPU usage around 60-75% for both and the CPU's 1-4 were still running at 100%

Asusprime · Apr 8, 2016

if you can see CPU running at 100% then you do have a bottleneck. I looked around and it seems like The Division does use more than 4 cores. People with i7s and FX 8-core CPUs have reported the game to use all 8 threads. Get the best i7 you can buy or get a Xeon if money is tight.

ominous11 · Apr 8, 2016

Asusprime :

Ahh no way I didn't think this game was that CPU intense. Hmmm look's like I'll need to upgrade my MoBo too get an I7. z87 mobo right now.

Any suggestions on a mobo that good for overclocking and has to PCI slots with 16x ? ( all black would be nice if possible hehe )

Asusprime · Apr 8, 2016

ominous11 :

Asusprime :

Ahh no way I didn't think this game was that CPU intense. Hmmm look's like I'll need to upgrade my MoBo too get an I7. z87 mobo right now.

Any suggestions on a mobo that good for overclocking and has to PCI slots with 16x ? ( all black would be nice if possible hehe )

You should be able to buy an i7 4790k and install it without an issue, maybe a bios upgrade.

ominous11 · Apr 9, 2016

Asusprime :

ominous11 :

You should be able to buy an i7 4790k and install it without an issue, maybe a bios upgrade.

Yah I just checked into it and I shouldn't have a problem. I was reading more about bottlenecking and found out that I could be bottle-necking not because of my cpu but because of my resolution at 1080p ?

Asusprime · Apr 9, 2016

ominous11 :

I dont know how is that possible. Monitors only display the content from the computer and do not in any way influence CPU usage.

Did you tried turning off Vsync OFF in the game's settings? Vsync is meant to synchronize your computer to your monitor's refresh rate (60Hz hence 60 fps)

UPDATE: lol i forgot you said that u would get 100's fps with sli. By the way what is the CPU your Friends has? if he has an i7 maybe thats the reason he gets better fps than you.

ominous11 · Apr 9, 2016

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I dont know how is that possible. Monitors only display the content from the computer and do not in any way influence CPU usage.

Did you tried turning off Vsync OFF in the game's settings? Vsync is meant to synchronize your computer to your monitor's refresh rate (60Hz hence 60 fps)

UPDATE: lol i forgot you said that u would get 100's fps with sli. By the way what is the CPU your Friends has? if he has an i7 maybe thats the reason he gets better fps than you. [/quotemsg]

https://forum.teksyndicate.com/t/980ti-sli-5820k-a-bottleneck/91956/26

I was reading in this discussion that at 1080p the it uses less gpu usage compared to 1440p or even 4k. "Therefore the variance in performance is more down to the CPU as in a lower resolution what is more likely to bottleneck performance is a CPU intensive load"

Yahh I never play with vsync on as I've never experienced screen tearing. Off the top of my head I know he's running a skylake CPU ( I want to say i5 6600 ) but I could be wrong.

Asusprime · Apr 9, 2016

if that was the case then your friend would experience the same FPS since he also plays on a 1080 60Hz monitor right?

we need to know what your friend has in order to see what is limiting your from getting comparable FPS on a single GTX 980 ti

ominous11 · Apr 10, 2016

Asusprime :

He has the i5 6600 skylake ( OC at 4.5 ) and the 980ti classified ( not OC )

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