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Tradesman1
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The Gaming Pro is a little pricier, though I won't do client builds on MSI due to their poor QC, I'd look to the Asus Z170-A or their Pro Gaming
- Nov 11, 2013
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it aint like asus bats a 1000 to me more hype then quality these days and sad misleading support like am3+ board stating 140w cpu's but has 220w chips in the compatible list or skylake boards claiming high voltage ddr3 memory is fine and dandy when intel says heck no ,boards getting 20bios updates when outher brands like boards just need 6 or 8 [how unstable was that thing to start with ??] and on and on what a joke
sure aint the asus of the past in anyway anymore
sure aint the asus of the past in anyway anymore
Tradesman1
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High voltage DDR3 on Skylake? Intel said 1.5 is the max for DDR3 clear back to Sandy Bridge (5 years ago) and they advertise (in part) XMP and list certified DRAM for Sandy, Ivy, Haswell and the bulk of the 'certified' DRAM is 1.6-1.65. They also stated you shouldn't OC the CPUs - yet they make unlocked CPUs for OCing, and with the remarkable lack of CPUs dying from OCing they even now sell insurance to users for OCing (as it's a very profitable (read easy money) for them). Intel has been understating the capabilities of their CPUs for years and years. From the get-go Asus, GB and the Rock have all tested and advertised higher voltage DDR3 for Skylake. As far as BIOS updates, I'm quite happy they are continually keeping them updated as new components for 1151 continue to poor out, if you pay attention in the forums we've seen many threads about mobos having DRAM problems (all mobo manufacturers) especially of late with the multiple releases of higher data rate/low CL models and the 16GB sticks that are appearing more and more. I know I've been playing with them and am happy that the BIOS is up to date for them, I've taken my 2x16GB 3200/14 Tri Zs and put them on a couple of client GB mobos, and 1 each of a Rock and a MSI mobo (all with the latest BIOS from them) and had problems galore. All things considered (new chipset, new CPUs, new DRAM (DDR4) and for many a new OS), it appears the othe big mobo makers are following the lead Asus set and working on their BIOS updates more in earnest
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spoken like a true promoter ... and its not just skylake you know it I know it guys at newegg know it as well
''6) Each new bios update (of which there were plenty) causes you to reconfigure all of your settings again and again.''
it don't matter what brand you got you go with the one that best fits your needs and throw it together fire it up and it will run well and stable and as you expect or it don't that's any brand . all I know is my ''last'' 3 asus were my last what a nightmare after 18 bios later and that was the ones still posted not counting the ones remover cause they run out of room on the page .. lol... [ improve system stability]
funny thig the outher brands board that replaced the asus's using the parts pulled off the asus's work fine and stable on there first release bios ?? go figure
''6) Each new bios update (of which there were plenty) causes you to reconfigure all of your settings again and again.''
it don't matter what brand you got you go with the one that best fits your needs and throw it together fire it up and it will run well and stable and as you expect or it don't that's any brand . all I know is my ''last'' 3 asus were my last what a nightmare after 18 bios later and that was the ones still posted not counting the ones remover cause they run out of room on the page .. lol... [ improve system stability]
funny thig the outher brands board that replaced the asus's using the parts pulled off the asus's work fine and stable on there first release bios ?? go figure
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I've used an MSI board and a Gigabyte, both been solid. But what is personal experience?
I "hear" things about quality control of MSI being poor, but whether "proof" exists is still questionable. Then again, I personally avoid Biostar and EVGA boards, but it's moreso my bias and heresay than data I guess. Without actual tests done or extremely thorough analysis of boards (things that only sites like Hardwaresecrets did in the past), we can only be biased.
Like capacitors. We know Jicon suck. But has anybody bothered analyzing the electrolyte formula with actual chemical proof that they leak easier, or has a chemist analyzed the aluminum? No. Just common knowledge.
I "hear" things about quality control of MSI being poor, but whether "proof" exists is still questionable. Then again, I personally avoid Biostar and EVGA boards, but it's moreso my bias and heresay than data I guess. Without actual tests done or extremely thorough analysis of boards (things that only sites like Hardwaresecrets did in the past), we can only be biased.
Like capacitors. We know Jicon suck. But has anybody bothered analyzing the electrolyte formula with actual chemical proof that they leak easier, or has a chemist analyzed the aluminum? No. Just common knowledge.
Frogeee
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From having this personally, I would go for the MSI. I've used MSI for a few years now, always worked for me. I am currently using a MSI 970 Gaming, works great. I had a Gigabyte before, but it didn't really work for what I was aiming for. In my opinion MSI is better than Gigabyte for gaming.
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That's the thing about motherboards... So much about opinions (not targeting you Frogeee, just saying in general). I'm very happy where we are in the current state of our power supply review process (extremely thorough reviews that go over every detail), but our motherboard reviews are just lacking.
Tradesman1
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Just upgraded to the 1601 BIOS on my Hero, enabled XMP, raised the multiplier back to 4.7, raised the vCore back to a + offset, added + 0.07 to the MC and back and running, less than a minute for the changes. All nice and stable for 24/7 use. Think most can afford a minute or so every few months 
Of course can make many more changes, i.e. I've fine tuned DRAM before and ended up needing a dozen timing changes alone, but once you have the settings and either jot them down or save screenshots to a flash drive you have all of them, so even then it's only a couple-three minutes, nothing to whine about.
Of course can make many more changes, i.e. I've fine tuned DRAM before and ended up needing a dozen timing changes alone, but once you have the settings and either jot them down or save screenshots to a flash drive you have all of them, so even then it's only a couple-three minutes, nothing to whine about.
Tradesman1
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For me I base it on my experiences through my business, I only build on Asus, the Rock and GB. For me MSI is out because of all the trouble calls I get on rigs where the culprit is the mobo, there are more on MSI mobos than any two other manufacturers put together.
- Nov 11, 2013
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well I got a MSi socket A from like 1999 with the fast hot new APGx8 slot still fires right up and runs well today [my legacy game pc rig]
thing with MSI is you got to be a bit more careful when doing a bios flash there tools anit so good in that dept,, [opinion]
my favorit board was my old giga 590sli but only got maybe 3 years on it and it poped a cap [ known issue with giga at the time ] got a asrock z87 so far so good well pleased to where I yet even considered moving off of it ? my asus was to where I could not get off them fast enough my buddy talked me into them and I don't let him forget that matter of fact he had to ditch them as well and went giga ,ya... fanboy my but .. though the asus 939 crosshair I believe it was was not too bad the better of the bunch
but you know it still personal preference user experience and some luck of the draw in the end
thing with MSI is you got to be a bit more careful when doing a bios flash there tools anit so good in that dept,, [opinion]
my favorit board was my old giga 590sli but only got maybe 3 years on it and it poped a cap [ known issue with giga at the time ] got a asrock z87 so far so good well pleased to where I yet even considered moving off of it ? my asus was to where I could not get off them fast enough my buddy talked me into them and I don't let him forget that matter of fact he had to ditch them as well and went giga ,ya... fanboy my but .. though the asus 939 crosshair I believe it was was not too bad the better of the bunch
but you know it still personal preference user experience and some luck of the draw in the end
Tradesman1
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Agree, I really liked GB and XFX on the older 775 mobos, 1156 and 1366 sort of a toss, primarily Asus and MSI, on 1155 (Sandy/Ivy) I favored the Rock boards, then Asus when 1150 rolled in with the Rock and GB as sort of a toss.
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that old 939 asus was a A8N-SLI that 939 was a hay day chip for AMD that thing did well in its time
back then you could slap in a Opteron on these boards as well I think it was the last you could do that with
back then you could slap in a Opteron on these boards as well I think it was the last you could do that with
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