i5/ATI 280X Vapor X/WIN 7 -- Computer Keeps Crashing/Freezing. Grey Screens sometimes to blue.

Hooch357

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PLEASE HELP TY!!!

+Win 7-64 bit
+intel i5-3570K CPU @3.4GHz (4 CPUs) ~ 3.8 GHz (not sure if this is overclocked)
+GIGABYTE GA-H61M-S2PV(R2.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
+SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon R9 280X DirectX 12 100363VX-3L 3GB 384-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 CrossFireX Support TRI-X WITH BOOST (UEFI) Video Card
+8GB Ram
+Power Supply is 750W 12V CoolMax
+Corsair Liquid Cooling (I think this is 120mm, the shop replaced the fan on the back of my case with this, there is no reservoir)
+Case is Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z Black SECC / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

I bought this from a custom shop (3000 miles away from me now). I picked out all the components except the case, my only stipulation being I wanted plenty of fans and liquid cooling to keep everything cool as my previous computer was a laptop that was constantly overheating. In addition to the back fan being replaced with the liquid cooling fan, the second fan on top closest to the rear was taken out. They said it was because the motherboard was too big but assured me it would have no impact on keeping everything cool.
When playing a game, my computer will eventually freeze (recently it has been going unresponsive and the monitor displays vertical grey/dark grey stripes or pure grey). This led me to believe that it was overheating, but just a minute ago I had a game open (DotA 2) for just a few minutes and it did it again. It may be important to note that I was not actually playing the game I was just sitting at the home screen.

I downloaded BlueScreenView and under Bug Check String it says: THREAD_STUCK_IN_DEVICE_DRIVER. In the lower part of the screen it has rows of files, three are in red: atikmdag.sys, dxgkrnl.sys, hal.dll. Honestly I don’t really understand what any of this means. There is various other information on this and the other 2 bluescreen reports. One has nothing in the Bug Check String column (4/4/2016), and the last one says SYSTEM_THREAD_EXCEPTION_NOT_HANDLED (09/30/2014). This last one has atikmdag.sys also in red as a filename however the middle one does not (it is however still on the list).

I tried doing some research and someone said it had to do with the audio driver and suggested I update it from Gigabyte's site. I downloaded it but it did not work, this time it went to a grey screen but just sat there and did not go to the blue screen. There seems to be no consensus about what to do. I have had this problem for pretty much the whole time I owned this PC and I always thought it had to do with overheating. I even removed the sides of my computer to increase airflow but it’s still crashing, the back of my graphics card is fairly warm to the touch and the tubes with liquid coolant are also somewhat warm although I couldn’t say how much.

The main reason I think its overheating is purely observational. When I was at my previous address (East Coast) the house was colder during this winter and I did not experience this as much or really at all. My average house temp was around 60-65 F. Now that I am in the bay area and my room has a lot of windows it’s been really bad (especially today it is really warm and there’s no AC or accurate thermostat). I bought this comp 1.5 years ago towards the end of 2014 summer and I remember it had more problems during the hot months than the cold. Also, some games which aren’t quite as graphically intense don’t have a problem (eg Smite and Cities: Skylines usually don’t have an issue but DotA 2 does).
 
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RAM shouldn't be the issue, but indeed investigate. It would be the most weird bug I have seen in years, haha.

And then it could be something with DOTA2. Can you re-install Direct X and maybe even telling Steam to re-check the game?

Also, as a last resource thing, downclock the CPU and in the GPU profiles for DOTA2, downclock the card manually. You can do that by opening the same menu that gives you the temperature.

If it's only 1 game affected, it has to be software inclined and less hardware. The odds of DOTA doing something "special" are low.

Cheers!
You video card appears to be having issues. The file called "atikmdag.sys" is part of the AMD driver for your video card. Try installing the latest drivers and have a look at the temperatures.

Other than that, I can't spot anything else from what you said.

Cheers!
 

Hooch357

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I will try that when I get home but I keep the drivers up to date. Is there a way in Windows to measure temp? I know there are 3P programs but they are all .zip and I don't own winZip or w/e and they want me to buy it.

 
Download 7zip from here: http://www.7-zip.org/

It's a free compression utility that works with ".zip" and (of course) ".7z".

In any case, you can measure the temperature from the driver itself. When you open Crimson go to "Gaming" -> "Global Settings" -> "Global Overdrive". It might give you a warning, because in this screen you handle overclock. The important bit is that you can read the temperature of your video card without the need of a 3rd party software.

If you want to download something else, I recommend MSI Afterburner.

Cheers!
 

Hooch357

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Apr 7, 2016
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Ok so I think you are right about over heating not being the issue. I downloaded MSI and my GPU was hovering in the low 50s Celsius when it crashed again. Before that I went to AMD and downloaded all the new drivers and reset my computer but that clearly hasn't fixed it. So I still dont know what is wrong
 
So it only happens when you start to game?

And if so, does your card come with the "switch"? Sapphire puts a switch to let you use "normal" settings and "OC" settings. If your card has it, you have to turn it off and then move the switch. Since your computer was overclocked from the factory, you haven't seen if it works fine with non-OC settings.

Other than that, you can take a look at the BIOS/UEFI setting for something around the PCIe slot working with a different multiplier or giving less voltage or something. Also, switch the GPU power cable just in case.

Cheers!
 

Hooch357

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Apr 7, 2016
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Ok so yesterday I was able to play smite for an hour so I thought it was fixed. I switched to dota because that's the ultimate test and it crashed almost immediately. I'm guessing dota (run on max settings) is more taxing than smite maybe?

As to the card having a switch I do not believe it does I just dusted the whole rig yesterday and didn't see anything like that. I don't really understand that but about the multiplier. There's other power cables in my case that are unused do I just swap out the two 8 pin cables that go to the GPU for other ones?

Edit: I found the switch you are talking about but it wasnt pressed in. So I tried running with it pushed and there was no difference.

Edit 2: I am doing more research and something I came across said that if you have a dual channel motherboard then you need two sticks of ram (I just have 1 8GB stick currently). I don't think mine is though.
 
RAM shouldn't be the issue, but indeed investigate. It would be the most weird bug I have seen in years, haha.

And then it could be something with DOTA2. Can you re-install Direct X and maybe even telling Steam to re-check the game?

Also, as a last resource thing, downclock the CPU and in the GPU profiles for DOTA2, downclock the card manually. You can do that by opening the same menu that gives you the temperature.

If it's only 1 game affected, it has to be software inclined and less hardware. The odds of DOTA doing something "special" are low.

Cheers!
 
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