Games lagging despite decent PC

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Runestep

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Hello everyone,

I keep having problems while playing certain games.
The framerates either drop down for around 5-10 seconds and then go good, or they are around 15-20.
I mainly play games like Heroes of the Storm or League of Legends which don't actually experience this almost at all, but other games like Smite,GTA V, Fallout 4 or Chivalry Medieval Warfare have really bad issues.

Pc specs:
CPU - AMD Vishera FX 6300 3.5 Ghz
GPU - Sapphire Radeon R9 270 OC Dual-X 2GB DDR5 256-bit
Motherboard- ASRock N68C-GS FX
Memory - Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Dual Channel Kit 1.5v
HDD - HDS721010CLA 1TB (the HDD is quite old, around 5-6 years now)
PSU - Game Daemon RPO500M 500W
OS - Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

It's now a problem of overheating since I keep monitoring the heat in and out of the games, also have a custom cooler on the CPU so I guess that's not the issue.


Looking forward to hearing from you guys.

 
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Have you run a SMART check on the HDD? Have you got a resoure monitor open to check temps/utilization of processor, RAM, HDD during gaming? Never heard of that PSU, so can you provide some specs or a picture of the specifications label?

WHen exactly do you experience fram drops? Intermittently, during specific events (scene changes, etc? or ...?)
 
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Runestep

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I have recently downloaded CrystalDiskInfo which kind of tell me infos about the HDD but I'm not quite sure how or what to use from them.
Always have the resource monitor on while playing and I keep track from time to time on the percentage of use on each component but there's not alot of difference between the CPU and GPU usage ( about 10-15% difference max.).
Here's the site where the specs on the PSU are more detailed : http://www.pcgarage.ro/surse/game-daemon/rpo500m-500w/
Also, the framerates usually drop randomly, though, barely anytime, I experience framerate drops in HoTS while teamfighting (makes sense since there's loads of effects to load).
But yeah, most of the times are randomly, just sometimes are during teamfights and all of these stressing moments.
Here's a picture on the HDD info.
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Edit: I see the Picture thing didn't work so I'll just add the link to the picture here :
http://postimg.org/image/q2hosi0ul/
http://postimg.org/image/k4vwc374d/


I mainly think it's a HDD issue since it's old and quite slow actually, usually on startup I have to wait around 5 minutes until everything clears out.
I checked the Task Manager info on HDD while startup and it's constantly at 99% during those 5 minutes.
I also tried decreasing the detail level in the games but barely a 1-2 frame difference is present from low-high.
 
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GhislainG

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Can you download and use AMD Overdrive to check the thermal margins at full CPU load? Do they drop below 10°C? Does the CPU frequency drop to 1.4 GHz? Does your custom CPU cooler also cool the VRM like the stock cooler did?
 
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Runestep

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I downloaded AMD Overdrive but an error pops up when I try to run it.
"AMD OverDrive cannot detect supported AMD chipset on this computer."
Does this error give you guys any hint on what might the problem be?

I do have CPUID HWMonitor which I use to monitor the temperatures and loads for the GPU and the CPU.
Here are some pictures of it :
https://beta.postimg.org/image/qcoa9g4uf/
https://beta.postimg.org/image/mucad23yf/

Those pictures are taken on idle, no application is running in the background.
Now, the next pictures are with 3 games opened ( not in menu, actually ingame) :
https://beta.postimg.org/image/5a99vy0p3/
https://beta.postimg.org/image/t2n6l7s3r/

As you might notice, the temperatures are not that much different, some being even lower then not running the games, the frequencies though have changed ( makes sense, duh ).

Looking forward to hearing from you guys.

P.S.: The games are Call of Juarez : Gunslinger, Chivalry: Medieval Warfare and Counter Strike: Global Offensive, all of them have max or close to max settings.

 
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GhislainG

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It's unfortunate your motherboard isn't compatible with AOD. Monitor the CPU frequency at full load (stress test it with Prime95 Small FFTs); does it drop from the maximum frequency? If so, then the motherboard's VRM most likely is forcing the CPU to throttle. In your first post you wrote "also have a custom cooler on the CPU so I guess that's not the issue"; unless you installed a top-down blower style cooler like the stock cooler, it probably is the issue. Your motherboard has a very weak VRM with no heatsinks and it requires good airflow to keep the components cool enough to prevent throttling.
 
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GhislainG

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Your cooler doesn't cool the VRM if it blows towards the back instead of the top edge of the motherboard (the usual VRM location is between the CPU and the back, but that motherboard is different). Install the stock cooler if you still have it and your system should run better. An alternate solution is to add a fan that blows directly on the VRM.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/NVIDIA/N68C-GS%20FX/index.fr.asp The VRM is between the ATX connector and the memory modules; as you can see it only has a 3+1 phase VRM with no heatsink (3 phases for the CPU next to it and one for memory near the memory slots and the 24 pin connector).
 
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Runestep

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Well, I am currently staying in a College dorm so I can't test that out right now, but when I go home, I'll try doing that and check fi the issue is still present.
Until then, there's nothing much else to do I guess.
I'll update you guys when I will have tried it out.
Thanks for the help! :)
 
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Runestep

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I just noticed the fan blows downwards, I guess I should have mounted it so it would blow upwards, toward the VRM.
I'll do that and come back to update on the problem.
 
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Runestep

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Well, I will buy a new Motherboard soon but until then, can you actually add a heatsink to the VRM?
Also, rotated the fan to blow upwards, toward the VRM.
Still testing it out to see how it copes with the problem.
 
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Runestep

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Thanks for the link, could you also link me a place where I could buy these pads? Or does it mather what kind of pad I use? Thought I think it matters since if that's the problem, the overheating, it might melt them.
 
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