Setting Up A Network With Switches

Aedan929

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I'm setting up a network, a very big one! I thought when you setup a network it was just a bunch of switches and routers, but what else am I missing? I am super confused! Thank you!
 
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Well, in bigger setups, the workstations are usually cabled to racks and said racks have switches.
The switches in different racks are usually connected to each other with fibre (usually singlemode) since it is faster (to avoid bottlenecks)
Usually in bigger setups, there is also a "server room" of sorts, where centralized data storage and/or servers are located. Also routers/firewalls belong in here.

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That's the basics....router(s) and switches. Bunch of other stuff you need, but that's a start.
But with the info you've given, no one can recommend anything.
 
Well, in bigger setups, the workstations are usually cabled to racks and said racks have switches.
The switches in different racks are usually connected to each other with fibre (usually singlemode) since it is faster (to avoid bottlenecks)
Usually in bigger setups, there is also a "server room" of sorts, where centralized data storage and/or servers are located. Also routers/firewalls belong in here.
 
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OK thanks! Do some have Backup Battries that mount to the rack?
 


If you have 254 or less terminals, a good router will do. Then you hook the switches behind it like the branches of a tree.(generic question => generic answer) :)
 
If the network is really important, the building itself should have centralized UPS system, cabling and it's own outlets at the racks and all that.
If not quite that important UPS companies do sell rack mountable UPS systems for eah rack their own.
Problem with above is that once site gets big enough, you will have 30 different UPS boxes everywhere and servicing them all is a pain instead of one central localtion.

Usually when going to that scale though, the situation should be really planned for, maximum load on UPS, needed network speeds, cabling types, what goes where.. not just thrown around.
Yes, that means paid for planning by real engineer
 

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Still, we are lacking any actual information on this.
However...if you are asking the questions at this level, you are probably not the guy we want designing and building it.
No offense...
 
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What he said. If you have to ask those questions this is not something you should be attempting. You need to be calling in professionals. If you do this I foresee a great many security and reliability issues, and your head will be on the chopping block.
 

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Hey thanks youre actually someone that gives the answer I'm looking for!
 

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I set up my whole home network which is pretty big with switches, and security too so I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing!
 
I would consider anything less than 24 RJ-45 wall jacks as "small" since all that can be fit easily on one switch and you usually don't need more than one or two wireless access points to collect silly laptop/phone wifi users that refuse to use ethernet connection.

If the setup is big enough to warrant more than one rack and fiber connection between them (and UPS systems too) then I would say it is big enough to contract outside certified Engineer/design person to plan it out.
Yes, it would cost money but at that scale, the cabling alone would be big enough job to warrant outsourcing it and they would need plans on paper to do it.
 


No offense, and it's commendable to WANT to undertake an endeavor like this, but honestly, as mentioned, if you KNEW what you were doing, you would NOT need to come here and ask. There are a good many WORLD CLASS IT people that frequent these forums, two of which answered you already in this thread previously (And have probably had at least one hand, probably two, in many of the systems that keep other countries that would like nothing more than to shut down essential systems in the US, from doing so, as well as many other national security related projects), and I can assure you that none of them need to ask questions on how to set up a big network, because they KNOW what they are doing.

More importantly, just being able to buy some hardware and plug some cables in at home is nothing like configuring a workable network in a business or mission critical environment. There is far more to worry about than just a few switches, some cables and a server or two. Switches, wire runs, hardware firewalls, racks of servers, workstations, databases, encryption, protocols, software firewalls, routers are all necessary and must all be configured correctly from both a hardware and software perspective, and you'll also need to know how to manage the credentials and permissions to and from all those devices.

All of which needs to happen before you then must configure the security of the network using sandboxes, encryption, firewalls and other methods of adminstrating the network. If there is anything I just said that you don't fully understand, and you've already taken on this project, my condolences to you. I have 30 years experience with small business and home networks, and I wouldn't undertake a project like that for the simple fact that it's far more complicated than an untrained individual could ever hope to accomplish without the help of a professional.