Please help with RAM choice

cirjakvoja · Apr 10, 2016

Hello, so I have a MSI z170A Gaming pro motherboard and I want to buy 2400 DDR4 ram memory. I have come across many different one so far but don't know how to chose. They all seem the same to me except the price. Can you tell me if there is any benefit, advantage or difference between these?
HyperX 16 GB DDR-2400 KIT (This is the first one that i wanted to buy)
https://www.alternate.nl/Kingston-HyperX/16-GB-DDR4-2400-Kit-Werkgeheugen/html/product/1265114?event=search
Then I found the V and the 4 from G.Skill. Can someone please tell me which one of these is better over the other.
G.Skill V DDR-4 16GB
https://www.alternate.nl/html/product/information/page.html?articleId=1218165&channel_code=110&ad_id=40079742356&s2m_product_id=IEIGGM44&utm_source=google&gclid=CjwKEAjw0KK4BRDCiKHD5Ny8pHESJACLE620tur6ulzvNQKnhqiR0_rgmyqSTnA7zmavWJGc0Bbu8xoC5QTw_wcB
G.Skill 4 DDR-4 16GB
https://www.alternate.nl/G-Skill/16-GB-DDR4-2400-Kit-Werkgeheugen/html/product/1185029?event=search
Corsair 16GB DDR-4 2400 KIT
https://www.alternate.nl/Corsair/16-GB-DDR4-2400-Kit-Werkgeheugen/html/product/1238777?event=search

And this one which I really like, since it has LED. Tell me if any other RAM from the list is better that this one.
Geil 16GB DDR-4 2400 KIT
https://www.alternate.nl/GeIL/16-GB-DDR4-2400-Kit-Werkgeheugen/html/product/1219208?event=search

techgeek · Apr 10, 2016

Well essentially all the kits except for the Corsair kit have the same primary timings. The Corsair has looser (read slower) timings, though it's unlikely outside of synthetic benchmarks that you'd see or feel any difference. I would purchase based on price. Pretty much all memory comes with a lifetime warranty. I've had OK luck with GSkill, the first kit I purchased from them had a bad stick, so bad my system wouldn't POST. The RMA set was great and that's what I'm running now. I've had good luck with Corsair and Kingston is awesome. I've no experience with Geil, though from what I've read they are pretty good too.

So really it comes down to price and who you like better. I see most of the kits are red, do you have a color theme going with this build?

cirjakvoja · Apr 10, 2016

techgeek :

Yes indeed, my theme is Black/Red, so that's why I think that an LED Ram would be nice, just to lit up my RIG and my pc. However I still don't understand the difference between the G.skill 4 and V

Tradesman1 · Apr 10, 2016

I'd go with the Ripjaws V for a dual channel mobo like yours, strong sticks with OC headroom

cirjakvoja · Apr 10, 2016

Tradesman1 :

Tradesman1 we meet again..... yaaaas. man you are the best! Could you compare those to Geil ones, why would you choose the G.Skill V over the Geil ones. Again I really want Geil since they have LED on top.

techgeek · Apr 10, 2016

cirjakvoja :

There really isn't any differences that matter between those two kits. They operate at the same frequency, at the same voltage, and have identical primary timings. I'd have to do some more research on those kits to see if there are differences in the secondary and tertiary timings, but that would be a waste of time. Secondary and tertiary timings have very little (read absolutely none) on performance except in very limited synthetic benchmarks.

Really what it comes down to is price. As the tradesman has pointed out the Ripjaws set is known to run at faster speeds with minimal effort. However overclocked RAM returns minimal benefits as well.

cirjakvoja · Apr 10, 2016

techgeek :

cirjakvoja :

There really isn't any differences that matter between those two kits. They operate at the same frequency, at the same voltage, and have identical primary timings. I'd have to do some more research on those kits to see if there are differences in the secondary and tertiary timings, but that would be a waste of time. Secondary and tertiary timings have very little (read absolutely none) on performance except in very limited synthetic benchmarks.

Really what it comes down to is price. As the tradesman has pointed out the Ripjaws set is known to run at faster speeds with minimal effort. However overclocked RAM returns minimal benefits as well.

Again with Geil. What about them how much effort do they need for fastest speeds.

techgeek · Apr 10, 2016

I've no experience with Geil. Do you plan on using your RAM beyond 2400?

cirjakvoja · Apr 10, 2016

techgeek :

I dont know, should? I mean my rig is pretty powerful. Idk if i need it

techgeek · Apr 10, 2016

Intel has done such a good job with their cache structure that memory performance has little impact on most applications unless you are gaming with the integrated GPU. So in most cases spending more money on faster RAM and / or overclocking your RAM results in 0 net effect. There are a few exceptions, but those are usually limited to benchmarks, scientific software and some image manipulation software.

Tradesman1 · Apr 10, 2016

I myself am not really a fan of Geil, they have decent sticks. I prefer GSkill as most all their lines of DRAM have good OC headroom, i.e. getting 2400 set at a good 2400 price is like getting higher priced 2666 sticks. And the higher data rates do play in, especially when multi tasking, though even in single tasking ggaming depending on the game and will see it even more in the future, i.e. Fallout 4 loves fast DRAM, gains of 10% and more have been seen. Game developers are using DRAM more and more for performance increases which is why we also are starting to see games call for 16GB

cirjakvoja · Apr 10, 2016

Tradesman1 :

so you think that G.skill will have a significant performance boost over cool LED Geil Ram?

Tradesman1 · Apr 10, 2016

I haven't had my hands on much Geil DRAM in awhile, if you like the LEDs go go for it

I've been playing with some really good looking sticks made by Avexir, the Red Tesla. They were designed for ROG mobos and at present only available in 2666, wishing they had them in faster. For work sticking with my 3200 TriZs

cirjakvoja · Apr 11, 2016

Tradesman1 :

just wondering, how much worse is the Geil one? Is G.skill so much better that you can notice it?

Tradesman1 · Apr 11, 2016

At stock not really, if you want to OC them higher, there may be more of a difference depending on what you do/are doing

cirjakvoja · Apr 12, 2016

Tradesman1 :

I would be gaming at ultra maxed out setting all games and i might do Twitch streaming

cirjakvoja · Apr 13, 2016

So which one would be better for overclocking for what im doing? and please please mention how much of a difference there is between the geil one and g.skill one with oc.

Tradesman1 · Apr 13, 2016

Just guess, but might get the Geil to 2666/16 where I think the RJ V might go to 2800 at CL16

techgeek · Apr 14, 2016

Much like GPU's and CPU's, there are no hard numbers when it comes to overclocking RAM. The IMC is definitely part of the equation here and a complete unknown. So just because a certain kit might hit say 2800, the IMC may not play nice with the settings needed to get the kit stable at that speed.

As for memory speed, I wouldn't be to concerned about it. You aren't going to feel a difference going from 2400 to 2800. Even synthetics will only show a marginal gain, and that's going to show it in the best possible light. You would be hard pressed to find anything normal users run that gives enough benefit from a RAM overclock that the user will be able to distinctly tell the difference. You'd be much better off overclocking your CPU and GPU than you would be overclocking your RAM. And it's debatable whether you'd find it worth your time overclocking the CPU and / or GPU in your system.

cirjakvoja · Apr 14, 2016

Tradesman1 :

Im sorry but I don't quite understand what you tried to say here, sry....

Tradesman1 · Apr 14, 2016

It's what I'm guessing you could do OCing the DRAM

cirjakvoja · Apr 14, 2016

Tradesman1 :

this is going too far xxD im just gonn go with geil since i wont notice a difference between it and g.skill

Tradesman1 · Apr 14, 2016

Let us know how you like them

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