Budget i5 Gaming PC build (questions about GPU and PSU)

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My ps4 broke down and now i want to build an own pc and got a few questions. I got a pc with a i5 2500 on a gigabyte ga-h61ma-d2v in a midi case. For gaming i want to upgrade it with a gtx 580 3gb phantom and a qtec 650w triple fan psu. My questions are. Would that work out? Would it be sufficient to play games from the latest 5 years like bf4, gta v at about high settings and 1600x900? Or am i missing something?

Thx. Jai S.
 
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I wouldn't recommend getting a GTX 580. It runs DirectX 12.0, whereas newer cards can take advantage of 12.1. Additionally, it's limited to 1.5GB of video memory, which could bottleneck the GPU when loading hefty textures. Lastly it runs fairly hot with a TDP of 244 watts.

On the other hand, a GTX 950 would be noticeably better. It's compatible with DirectX 12.1, and has 2GB of video memory, meaning it won't have as much trouble with more taxing textures. Furthermore, it has 200 more cuda cores, and only uses an astonishing 90 watts. Most importantly, the driver support for the GTX 950 will remain updated for years to come, whereas the GTX 580 may not due to it's age.

You would pay a bit more for a 950 and it's better performance...
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Not with that PSU. It isn't a true "650W". It is a poor quality, low wattage unit not designed for that kind of load.
The GTX 580 is a bit old and slow by today's standards, about the equivalent of the more modern GTX 960. But that would still be good for your screen resolution of 1600x900.
The Sandy Bridge i5 is still a good gaming CPU even though it is a bit behind the times too.
The motherboard will be fine as long as it has the F4 or later BIOS to recognize that CPU.

Bottom line.... get a better PSU.
 
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Bottom Line..."Go big or Go home" :D Come join the PC master race and thrive

Sell the PS4 for scrap, save up for a 970 (Around £280 or £150-200 on eBay)
 
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Thanks. Yeah, i am on a really tight budget and would get the 580 for 70 bucks. Cant find a new one that would come close to that in that price range. I also thought about saving up for a 900 series as they are also under 200, but I#d love to game again as soon as possible xD. And thx for the psu information. I would get it pretty cheap too but couldnt find any detailed specifications nor any reviews or recommendations, so i got suspicious anyway.
The i5 is currently running, but just with its onboard graphics and a 350w psu what makes it just good enough to ask questions in this forum ^^
 
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but the budget is still small. I think i should have a little patience and get me a more up to date gpu and of course i need a psu. Maybe not even such a strong one, if it wont be the 580, but definitiveley more powerful than my current 350
 
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If the 350W PSU is any good, that will allow you to run a GTX 950 for some decent gaming @ 900p. Or else, save up for a better PSU. Something in the 600W (or better) category for the GTX 580.
 
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I can understand if your looking to get back into gaming quite quickly however if your really want to get into PC gaming you wont regret saving up a little for a good PC :D

Trust me i had a £250 Pre-Built for about a year as my 1st PC and even though i could play the basics i hated it. Now after saving for about 3 months while on an apprenticeship I've got a my dream setup an love it!
 
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I wouldn't recommend getting a GTX 580. It runs DirectX 12.0, whereas newer cards can take advantage of 12.1. Additionally, it's limited to 1.5GB of video memory, which could bottleneck the GPU when loading hefty textures. Lastly it runs fairly hot with a TDP of 244 watts.

On the other hand, a GTX 950 would be noticeably better. It's compatible with DirectX 12.1, and has 2GB of video memory, meaning it won't have as much trouble with more taxing textures. Furthermore, it has 200 more cuda cores, and only uses an astonishing 90 watts. Most importantly, the driver support for the GTX 950 will remain updated for years to come, whereas the GTX 580 may not due to it's age.

You would pay a bit more for a 950 and it's better performance, however with it's lower wattage, you could save a few bucks and buy a lower watt power supply; compensating for the more expensive GPU.

Here's one of the cheapest new 950s on newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487225&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
 
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Alright. Then i will get me a 950 and hopefully my current psu can take it. If not I still won't need something as big as 600w. But i also think it's better to spend just a little more, but go with a newer, faster and more energy efficient) gpu (i find it kind of ridiculous that the 580 easily goes over 200w and above).
Thanks guys. Give me a couple of time and i will be back gaming the hell out of that thing.
 
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Edit: Just wanted to let you know, that i found a really cheap used gaming pc few weeks later and took the best parts of each one. I now have a R9 280 Dual X and a good 600W PSU. Also way more HDDs, SSD and Ram than i would need. So no worry about big upgrades in the next time. Running BF4 on ultra at 60 to 100fps with temps going to 70-75°C on the boxed cooler. And still have the Mainboard. processor and OS from the other PC so I can build another PC around it.
 
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