A10-7850K Overheating with DeepCool Maelstrom 240

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Astro16

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Hi guys, need help figuring this out but first here's my specs:

CPU: A10-7850k
Cooling: DeepCool Maelstrom 240
Mobo: G1 Sniper A88x
GPU: IGD
RAM: GSkill Ripjaws Z 2400Mhz 8Gb
Storage: Samsung 840 Evo 120gb
Toshiba 340Gb 7200rpm SATA
WD Caviar Blue 500Gb 7200rpm SATA
PSU: Cooler Master 620W Thunder M Modular
Case: Raidmax Cobra (Green)
OS: Windows 10 Pro

I'm using coretemp, CPUID HW Monitor, Gigabyte System Info Viewer (SIV).

I'm currently overclocked to 4.3GHz at auto-VID but it runs around 1.34v idle; 1.36v to 1.38v on load. APM enabled. IGD forced to 2Gb at 866Mhz +0.018v on NB. RAM is set to 2133Mhz at 1.65v 9-11-10-28; I can't get the RAM to run at a stable 2400Mhz speed as recommended with its XMP profile.

Fan speed controls are loaded "Normal" in the bios; set and calibrated on Gigabyte SIV "Performance" preset.

Problem is when I go to the bios to check the temps I'm getting around 50-64 degrees C. Sometimes 70+degrees. This reflects the same on HWMonitor on idle. I tried using coretemp but I don't see the actual temps, only the min and max temps. AMD Overdrive has the same temps as HWMonitor and the BIOS. Gigabyte SIV reads around 15 to 33 degrees on idle with around 26 degrees average. So I'm not entirely sure if my cooler is doing its work or the stock thermal paste is too thick; my temp softwares are not reading right or the motherboard is faulty or the CPU is.

If I run at stock settings I get an idle of about 40 to 60 degrees, very high for idle.

TIA for your help.
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Astro16

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Will try when I get home. I did take the PC apart yesterday before I went to sleep and cleaned everything just to make sure. Will test the temps again once I put them back together.

By the way how much voltage do I need to bump up on the NB voltage? Because I had tried setting the NB frequency to 2000MHz and raise the NB voltage to +0.05 or so and after two hours or so my PC will crash while playing. I really can't get any references to overclocking this APU and RAM with the kind of motherboard I have. TIA
 
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Just remember only a thin skin layer of thermal paste is needed. Standard rule of thumb is a No.2 pencil eraser sized drop in dead center of CPU, then once you apply the cooler it will automatically spread. There's no need to pull out the butter knife. ;)

CPU-NB Voltage not NB Voltage. NB Voltage is for your graphics and other parts, CPU-NB is the memory controller.

Does the motherboard display the current operating value for 2133? You need to make sure the value is even higher for 2400. I think at 2133 the value is already more than +0.05V, so you need to keep moving up to see what it needs.
 
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I got my temps right now at stock speeds but another problem arises.. Whenever I try to overclock the temps throttle.
I can't get any stable gaming when my RAM is set to 2400Mhz.

Here are my current settings:

cpu clock control 100
Processor Graphics Clock 720
CPU NBF 2000
CPU clock Ratio 37
Advanced CPU Core Settings:
CPU Clock Ratio 37
Core Performance Boosy
Turbo Performance Boost Ratio Disabled
Core Performance Boost Ratio Disabled
AMD Cool&Quiet Function Enabled
cTDP Function Disabled
SVM Mode Disabled
C6 Mode Disabled
CPU core Control Auto
APM Disabled
XMP Profile 1
System Memory Multiplier 24
Timings set to Auto 10-12-12-32 2T
CPU vCore Auto
NB Voltage +0.054
DRAM Voltage 1.65v
CPU vCore Loadline Auto
NBVid Loadline High

PC still crashes when playing games
 
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Astro_2

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Hi,

It's been months. I had to rma the aio since the pump was making a loud screeching noise.

I had been running heaven benchmark to replicate a real game load on the system on 1080p lowest settings.

Just before the benchmark finishes either it freezes or boots down.

I had resolved the issue of thermals by setting the cpuvid llc to auto since i noticed that setting it to extreme sends the cpu vcore to 1.44v+ making the cpu hot forcing my initial OC's to boot down when stressing the system.

Now cpu vcore is auto and llc is auto running around 1.3+v.

I've been stepping the nb core per increments. I'll post photos of my bios settings later.
 
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Astro_2

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Astro_2

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up until how much would you suggest? should I reach like +0.100? what about the NB frequency, will 1900Mhz suffice?

I left everything much at stock to and disabled other variables so I can just isolate the ram and increase stability.
 
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Astro_2

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I think I might have solved the issue with the RAM.

My current settings are:

4.3Ghz CPU frequency CPU Vcore set to auto
2400Mhz set XMP Profile 1 timings manually 1.65v
2000Mhz NB Frequency
iGPU at 1108Mhz at NB Vcore at +0.15
APM is enabled
Channel interleaving enabled

and the variable I think that makes the system crash is when the Rank Interleaving is enabled with Channel Interleaving.

I tried Channel Interleaving and Rank Interleaving disabled first, performance is dropped with very unplayable frame rates.

I enabled CI and performance boosted no system crashes. Ran Heaven Benchmark, played Tomb Raider 2013 at 1080p normal settings for an hour.
I enabled RI and disabled CI performance dropped no system crashes.

If both is enabled the system crashes outright when the game is loaded or you make your first run, sometimes it takes 5 to 10 mins to crash.

Right now RI is disabled and I'm gonna play Assassin's Creed IV for an hour at 1080p and see if it's stable. So far so good. I'll let you know what happens next. I'm just curious why Rank Interleaving makes it crash.
 
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Astro_2

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Okay so after 3hrs the system crashed while playing.

I had reset the frequency back to stock at 3.7Ghz and the GPU frequency at 720Mhz. At least I got the RAM stable now. I'll play around some more and see at what max GPU frequency I can run it at stable for more than 3hrs then I'll work my way up overclocking the CPU frequency.
 
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