OC'd my i7-5820K and enabled XMP on RAM - better to have slightly higher CPU speed or XMP on?

kukov

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Hi folks,

Just yesterday I did my first OC - followed the guide from Linus Tech Tips YouTube video since it's the same as my CPU. It went well, but I have a few questions that I'd love some feedback on.

My system:
Intel i7-5820k
ASUS x99-A
Noctua NH-D15 air cooler
Corsair RM750i PSU
32 GB Corsair Vengeance Lpx DDR4-2666MHZ (8 x 4GB sticks)
GTX 660
2 HDDs, 2SSDs, 2 external drives

I leave my system on all day and use it most of the day, and I also do a lot of video work (editing in Premiere, mograph in AE, compositing in Nuke, CG in C4D, simulations in RealFlow, etc.) which is why I went for a system with a lot of RAM and a 6-core CPU.


QUESTIONS:
1) I recently overclocked the system and, following Linus' guide, started off with the CPU core at 45 and the voltage at 1.3. I ran the AIDA64 test and had a couple cores touch the low 80s - I understand that to be not great.
Q: Is it considered unadvisable to keep these settings just if the CPU touches the low 80s, or if it AVERAGES in the 80s? In the former, I might as well keep it at 45 and 1.3, otherwise I'll have to lower it, especially given the long render times I sometimes do on the machine.

2) Deciding I wanted to try some settings where the AIDA64 stress test doesn't even touch the 80s, I set the voltage to 1.25 and kept the CPU core at 45. I ran AIDA again and now the temps were maxing out in the high 70s, I think one core might have hit 80. I understand this to be safe.
Q: If I can keep the CPU core at 45 (so the CPU runs at 4.5mhz), why not just always keep a lower voltage to keep it cooler? Why do 1.3 when 1.25 seems to work fine? For that matter, why not keep lowering the voltage? 1.1? 1.0? I assume at those lower voltages it won't be able to run at 45 - but given that I could run it at that, is it safe to leave the voltage at 1.25?

3) Deciding to leave the system at 1.25v, I next turned on the XMP ram profile at 2666 - this changed the cpu strap to 125. Deciding to play it safe, I put the CPU core at 35 (35 x 125 = 4,375). Ran AIDA again and the temps averaged in the 70s, one core hit a max of 80.
Q: I'd rather stay with a slightly lower Mhz and know I'm not risking anything with my temps - are these settings good for my "final" settings?

4) Until my OC I've never heard my Corsair RM750i fan boot up - it only does it when it's under a certain percentage of output. Previously the fan was never on, even during 100% CPU-utilization Cinema4d renders, which I would sometimes run for 12+ hours. Given that the fan now DOES turn on with my OC settings, is it going to be safe if I continue doing long 12+ hour, 100% CPU renders? Is this safe for consistent use? (Say, one or two long renders a week for the next few years?)


FINALLY - QUESTION IN TITLE

5) I did a bit of Googling and it seems that the XMP profile for the RAM makes little to no difference - 2-5% in a few cases, in some cases no difference. Is it better to just leave the RAM XMP off and know I can boost my CPU core speed a bit to get my MHZ up from 4.375 to 4.5, both at 1.25v? Then again, maybe I won't even notice the difference for the ran RAM at 2666 instead of 2111 in something like After Effects?


Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
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If it's stable at 1.25 volts, then I would definitely use that instead of 1.3. Every CPU is different, and with voltage you want the lowest voltage that is 100% stable at your chosen core ratio. Changing your memory speed should not have a significant effect on CPU temperature, certainly not enough to affect longevity. I would, however, feel much more comfortable with a Vcore of 1.25 than 1.3. How are your temps while rendering? Those are much more relevant than your temps in a stress test.

I have the same CPU and a similar cooler as you and while my temps approach 90 during, say Prime95 Small FFT, they barely hit 70 during a CPU only render, or 60-65 in most games, so I don't worry about it.

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According to the intel website they don't recommend running the processor at over 67 degrees. http://ark.intel.com/products/82932/Intel-Core-i7-5820K-Processor-15M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz
Although that's a very safe range. In my opinion you don't want the CPU to be going above 75 degrees if you can avoid it. But its fine if it occasionally rises to the low 70s.

There doesn't really seems to be any noticeable performance benefit once you go over 4.375GHZ so maybe its better to leave it at that if it gives you slightly better temperatures than 4.5GHZ.
 


Note that that is heat spreader temperature, not silicon die temperature. The die itself runs many degrees hotter than the heat spreader. The CPU heat provided is the temperature of the die itself. I'd say running at a die temperature of 80 or below is fine.
 

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If it's stable at 1.25 volts, then I would definitely use that instead of 1.3. Every CPU is different, and with voltage you want the lowest voltage that is 100% stable at your chosen core ratio. Changing your memory speed should not have a significant effect on CPU temperature, certainly not enough to affect longevity. I would, however, feel much more comfortable with a Vcore of 1.25 than 1.3. How are your temps while rendering? Those are much more relevant than your temps in a stress test.

I have the same CPU and a similar cooler as you and while my temps approach 90 during, say Prime95 Small FFT, they barely hit 70 during a CPU only render, or 60-65 in most games, so I don't worry about it.
 
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kukov

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Thanks for the heads up - just did a test render for a few minutes at 100% utilization and the temps stayed in the mid 60s the whole time.