PS4 4.5 "Neo" equivalent Nvidia GPU

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Hi guys so I've been reading about this new ps4.5 codename "Neo" that is "able to play 4K"
and it says it has an AMD GCN, 36 CUs GPU.
I am wondering what is the equivalent GPU for Nvidia. I have a gtx970 running on i5 4460 will this console's GPU beat my machine?

Thanks please let me know
 
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No, your GPU is the same cost of a brand new console....

It won't be able to play 4k games made by major studios, but smaller indie games, sure. But, deveopers would have to make their games after they get a hold of the console, so that's a problem. As far as "play" is concerned, I'm certain that refers to UHD blu rays, not games. They're upgrading the HDMI chip, so that it supports HDMI 2.0, and HDCP 2.2, as well as the various HDR which UHD blu rays require you to have.
No, your GPU is the same cost of a brand new console....

It won't be able to play 4k games made by major studios, but smaller indie games, sure. But, deveopers would have to make their games after they get a hold of the console, so that's a problem. As far as "play" is concerned, I'm certain that refers to UHD blu rays, not games. They're upgrading the HDMI chip, so that it supports HDMI 2.0, and HDCP 2.2, as well as the various HDR which UHD blu rays require you to have.
 
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I see. so it's like they are doing the same thing with Nvidia's DSR? upscaling the resolution of their games?
or not at all?


 

Well an R9 380X has 32 CUs and and R9 390 has 40. But you really can't compare them that easily. There are things like, you know, clock speed, shaders, texture units and VRAM speed to consider also for GPU performance. I would imagine this updated console will be at best as fast as a GTX 960.
 

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I see. thanks man. got me thinking for a moment there if I should get one.



 
If you're a movie enthusiast, then that alone is worth buying the 4.5 for. I don't think that it's worth it otherwise. You can buy a PC with faster performance for the same price, and if you want the exclusives, just buy a used PS4. I don't recommend waiting or saving for it, if you're not into the highest quality movies offer currently, i.e UHD blu ray discs.
 

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I love pc gamming but sometimes I have the feeling that game developers are trying to rip off pc gamers. frame rate drops, performance issue, unoptimize games etc. It's always a case of " if your pc can it doesn't always mean that you will"
get what I mean? lol :pt1cable:



 

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I love pc gamming but sometimes I have the feeling that game developers are trying to rip off pc gamers. frame rate drops, performance issue, unoptimize games etc. It's always a case of " if your pc can it doesn't always mean that you will"
get what I mean? lol :pt1cable:


 

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Man if u think that there is no performance issues on consoles u re wrong :D i have PS4 and i regret it every day. Witcher 3 - drops to 22 fps, Bloodborne/Dark Souls 3 - bad frame pacing..., Battlefield 4 - fps drops on 64 servers, Diablo 3 - fps drops on high lvls etc.... If u want better performance, stay with PC GAMING MASTER RACE. I know I will never buy a console again :) Peace bro :)
 

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UHD Game Consoles shipped in 2013 but won't be firmware updated to support it till 2016.. There is a second paper naming both the XB1 and PS4 as UHD game consoles.

So this is understood as confirmed:

The PS4 has a HDMI 2 port with HDCP taking place in Southbridge and the GPGPU block mentioned by Eurogamer in the PS4 and XB1 are Xtensa DSP accelerators that are used for HEVC and OpenVX (Vision processing and Codecs using GPGPU with special blocks that are 20-100X more efficient than CPU or GPU GPGPU at some tasks.)

And for the Player software and License for UHD Game Console

There is a BDA Licence for UHD Blu-ray game consoles and Sony has a License for a BD-ROM4 Movie Player/BD-ROM Game Console/BD-ROM Test Player and a License for a UHD Blu-ray PC application.. BD-ROM4 is the UHD blu-ray version. What was confusing was that it was for a Category that included all Embedded platforms where the Manufacturer has control over the drive and all DRM; I.E. Stand alone UHD Blu-ray players and Game Consoles.

There is no such thing as a UHD drive; there is no UHD Drive in the PS4 or the coming Neo.

A modern HD Blu-ray drive can be firmware updated to support UHD (Version 2 disks = 33 GB/layer). . ALL blu-ray drives can read three or more layers. It's the disk that is special not the drive; this is mentioned in Wiki pages.

Key is understanding that UHD in all it's forms and Vidipath use the same open source standards >> HTML5 and a UHD TV display is a web page. ALL UHD including TV supports DRM via HTML5 <video> MSE EME standard and a common DRM chosen for Vidipath is Playready.


 

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Probably not.
Console Developement is a bit different to PC developement in the sence that with consoles, you don´t have to develope for thousands of relevant different combinations of components. Because of this, console games don´t actually have resolution sliders and other graphics settings you could simply increase. There´s no way to easily improve the visual quallity. Existing games will most likely run at the same settings and resolution as the regular PS4. In most cases, I don´t even think the framerate will be better (bc of hard framerate limits common with console games).
However, most new games will most likely have a "regular" and a "neo" mode with different LOD, resolution, framerate limit and other graphics settings improved for the neo.