EVGA step-up pointers-New pc gamer-EVGA didnt help me much

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So, I just spoke with EVGA live chat representative, and of course, they couldn't give me a straight answer. And I understand. I was basically asking if I could step-up a GTX970 to the new 1070(If that's what its going to be called) when its released. And they said if its more powerful, then yes.

Is it for sure going to be more powerful? I hear 10x the power or something crazy, just want to make sure from the experts at tomshardware :) If unsure, I may just pick up the GTX960 so I know for sure I would be able to upgrade it. Id even save money on the tax since the 960 is cheaper.

Also, the live chat representative couldn't predict the future, lol. He wouldn't give me an idea of the queue times. What do you guys think it'd be? Weeks? Months? Half a year? I wasn't in the loop when the 970 and 980 were released so I have no idea what the wait times where back then.

Any advice would be appreciated!
 
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you will be able to step up from a 970, to a "1070", IF, and only IF, the 1070 was released within 90 days of purchase of the 970. Not before or after the 90 day period, that is how it works.
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months when I did a 670 to a 780, but you wait for months for the approval, then send ur gpu in and get ur other gpu pretty fast.

But it is only if it is released within the what, 3 months from time of purchase? When I did it, it was basically upgrade to the same thing(to reference model of newer model) or to a more powerful reference model. So the normal 770 or 780, and only pay difference in price to higher level, or no cost for the 770 from the 670. You get no option to choose any of the OC or superclocked models essentially.

But that is when I did it a few generations back.
 
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I know, that's why I said I understand why they couldn't give me a straight answer.. And I didn't ask about the release date.



Thanks for the info. I figured months, that's why I kind of want to wait for the new GPU's. But my computer with be just sitting completed (If I can complete it lol) for a month. Didn't know about the superclocked or OC. But I heard somewhere they stopped the overclocking with the new generation. To bad everything is such a secret with the GPU's. Its frustrating. Early April, then late April, then May, now its looking like June >.<
 
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with step up you only got 90 days from time of purchase ? then it only select cards to be ''steped up'' to cetin cards you don't get to pick and choose

''within 90 days of their original purchase date based on invoice verification.'' and then it has to be from a evga authorized dealer

http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/

Graphics Cards Examples:
•GTX 780 Ti → GTX 980: YES (Upgraded GPU)
•GTX 960 2GB → GTX 960 4GB SuperSC ACX2.0+ 1GB: YES (Upgraded Memory)
•GTX 970 FTW → GTX 970 FTW+ : YES (Upgraded Model)

I mean how is evga going to help you on a card not even in production or available yet ??

I think it was nice of him not just to hang up on ya....
 
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Whoa you don't get to choose what card you step-up to? I didn't see that on there website.. ill read it over again but that seems lame. You just have to start the upgrade process within 90 days I believe
 
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Lol, hang up on me? I'm just trying to see if I can go from the 970 to the 1070. I'm new, you didn't have to edit your post to be rude. And It was a live chat, reading is hard.

I was looking for advice from the evga guy, and to an extent he helped a little.


You're right. Ill try their board. Ive just had good luck on toms in the past.
 
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you will be able to step up from a 970, to a "1070", IF, and only IF, the 1070 was released within 90 days of purchase of the 970. Not before or after the 90 day period, that is how it works.
 
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this may be a better evga forum for step up

http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-StepUp-Program-f34.aspx


''' was looking for advice from the evga guy, and to an extent he helped a little.''

how could he ?? your wanting him to do something that's not even a realailty yet pascal may as well still be rumor not fact -- what not talk to him about real life cards they got not ones still on the drawing board out of any of his control

and I don't mean to be rude just the way it looked ... sorry

 
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I believe its more fact than rumor lol. But you're right. Its not officially released. But you don't think they've upgraded cards in the past? How is this upgrade any different than all the other cards they've upgraded in the past?
 
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Thank you deadly. Solved that problem. The 90 day is a big if, considering the speculated release date keeps getting pushed back.
 
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Might want to lower your expectations a bit. True, some aspects of the card will be quite a bit more powerful than the current generation, but the overall performance will be much more reasonable. The titan/x80 ti versions of the pascal will be quite powerful, but the x70 and x80 will be a bit less powerful (with the x70 trailing behind a fair bit, just like the 7xx and 9xx series). You could probably reasonably expect the x70 to be around/between the 980 and 980 ti ballpark.
 
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''Might want to lower your expectations a bit. ''

so true , intill you have a real card in hand you don't know or can count on nothing - heck in my opinion the 900 cards seem to be a overall let down in a lot of ways

they like to put out all hype to build sales interest .. fact is most times hidden under there hype smokescreens

good luck
 
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I don't think it's "smart" to wait for the "1070/1080/1080Ti and Icrapmoneyandhavenosense Titan".

It's going to be totally new tech, new chip, new memory, new PCB design, new drivers, new new new...and if history has taught us anything you really really don't want to be one of the ones who posts here weekly with a new bug or "GTA V super low FPS/stuttering" etc.

If you wanna make use of step-up, then do it within those 90 days and really step up to something considerably more powerful. The 9xx series stuff is based on older stuff and is really proven now. So you can rely on it until Pascal has matured a little.
 
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I just posted how I see pascal working

i'll bet they do just like they did the 970, and take a old 980 card and swap out the Maxwell chip for the pascal chip


''Furthermore, as we mentioned in our GTX 980 review, GTX 970 has been a pure virtual (no reference card) launch, which means all of NVIDIA’s partners are launching their custom cards right out of the gate. A lot of these have been recycled or otherwise only slightly modified GTX 700/600 series designs, owing to the fact that GM204’s memory bus has been held at 256-bits and its power requirements are so low.
[Anandtech .com] ''

that's what amounts to what your going to get at first [opinion]


''Rumor: Nvidia may have killed Maxwell production ahead of June Pascal launch''

yup take them Maxwell cards nd just covert them into pascals [more opinion]

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/226879-rumor-nvidia-...

that's now how it seems to work at NVidia these days


they all ready said all that hyped up hbm memory has been removed in a few rumor sites as well?? so???
 
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Apparently GDDR5X...whatever the f*** that is supposed to mean. Blah blah higher bandwidth...so essentially AMD has working HBM and Nvidia don't.

I use Nvidia exclusively but I am somewhat happy "team green" are about to come under heavy fire or so it seems. Could be a nice market for the buyer soon
 
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I will admit today I would be hard pressed to go AMD on my next card regardless


then it seems NVidia dropped hbm on lower cards and will/maybe just used on a top end ''select'' card ?? I guess if you want the hbm memory you will pay a premium and knowing NVidia a high premium ..???

thgen like I say it all still rumor mill
 
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until you have a real live card sold retail from like newegg to test yourself you just don't know .. not a cherry picked card sent to review sites to assure hyping up of them


how many threads you see with the ''my card lags and don't preform as they said in its review ??'''

good luck
 
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