AMD fx-8320 Black Edition Cooling Help

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Hey so i know this has been asked alot before and i have seen many forums with the same problem but my fx-8320 likes to overheat and shut down when in more demanding games.

The thermal paste was cleaned and reapplied 4 months ago now, at the time of replying most of the paste had melted off. The computer idles between 25 - 30 degrees but in low demanding games eg: Counter Strike Global Offensive can get up to temps of 68 after just one game and in some rare cases throttle and shut down. I am looking to get a new cooling device, either water cooled or air i dont mind but i do not want to have to spend money on water cooling if it is not necessary. I'm not 100% sure what temperature shuts down the cpu but i have a feeling it is at 70 degrees.

Is there anything i can do to keep my cpu cooler other than buying a new cooling device and if not what cooling devices would keep this cpu at a lower temperature preferably at least below 60 degrees.

note: I have also disabled turbo core.

Current Specs -

CPU - fx-8320
GPU - Radeon HD7850
Motherboard - asus m5a78l-m/usb3
RAM - 2x 8gb corsair vengeance
CPU Cooling - Can't remember what model but i know it isn't the stock fan.
Case - Aywun A1-923 ATX case.
 
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I would start with the fans in the case. For now I would start with the front and rear fans. Side door fans are a pita, so I'd only consider it if you need it. Thermal paste wouldn't hurt either. Cleaning out the dust is always a good first thing to do, it's free and doesn't take much time. Well I guess not quite free since you need compress air, but it's part of the regular maintenance.

Then if you are still having heat issues with the CPU, then I'd consider a new CPU cooler. The Hyper 212 is a very good cooler.

Replacing the motherboard is the last thing I'd do here. You have a few obvious things you can do first to correct your issues. Do the least expensive and work your way up. The fans really need to be there whether...
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I also like the Hyper 212 EVO, though recently I've been pointed to the Cryorig H7 and the Raiintek Themis as better cheaper alternatives. Any of these three are good. Though after looking around I couldn't find the H7 or Themis anywhere in Canada where I live. They seem to be more prevalent in Europe.

I like Arctic MX-4, decent paste.
 
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Not 100% sure what paste was used since i took it to the store for them to do it but i guess it must be one of these two since they are the only pastes they have in stock, not sure about the quality of them.
http://www.jw.com.au/coolermaster-v1-ic-thermal-paste-p-14650
http://www.jw.com.au/arctic-silver-compound-35g-p-210

Thanks for the fast reply
 
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Thanks, i will have a look at how to do this my self and with the addition of a new cooling system such as the Hyper 212X and maybe a case fan or two, hopefully this should keep the temperature lower than 60 degrees at full load.
 
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So you have an aftermarket cooler, but you don't remember the name. Any chance you could post a picture of your system with it in.

Have you cleaned it lately? Dust is the biggest reason that CPU's overheat. If your heatsink is full of dust, hit it with some compressed air to dislodge it. If the fan can't be removed when you are doing this, use something to keep the fan from spinning when hitting the heatsink with compressed air. You don't want the fan to spin too fast as this can cause bearing damage.
 
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If you have disabled turbo boost you could try lowering the voltages.
What stock voltage does your cpu run at? My 8320 has a stock voltage of around 1.345v and well over 1.4v for turbo, but if i disable turbo boost and run it at 3.5ghz i can lower voltage down to 1.125v.
That should help lower the temps some what while you get your cooling sorted.


Edit: Just noticed your motherboard... That's a terrible board for that cpu, this maybe the reason behind your high temps/throttling.
 
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It's not that good either. It's just the nature of that architecture mixed with the older process and lower IPC. To compete AMD was forced to push the core clockspeed up to counter the lower IPC, and the result of running that higher clockspeed on a 32nm process is heat.
 
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Its not that bad a board but with an 8320 you are pushing the limits of it voltage wise.

You NEED a down blower on that board for vrm cooling , towers may drop CPU load temps but you'll overinflate both MOSFETs & socket temps with no airflow.

Your cheap case is probably not helping either.

 
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So i had a look and found a complete list of specs including the cooling fan, it is a DeepCool Gamma Archer and from some basic research on it, i think it looks almost just as bad as a stock cooler only quieter. Also some people have mentioned the motherboard being not very good, so what would you recommend i put in place of the M5A78L?

 
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The primary issue with that board is the VRM design is pretty weak with no heatsinks. So the 8320 is pushing the VRM's to the limits.

What is your budget? This board would probably fill your needs without a lot of frills:

M5A97 R2.0

There are better boards, but they are going to cost more. I trust ASUS, so that's usually what I recommend.
 
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No i have not got any case fans and if possible i would like to be able to get one or two as well as replace the thermal paste and add in a better aftermarket fan without having to replace the motherboard. But if it is the only option i may have to replace the motherboard.
 
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Well if your computer doesn't have any case fans, that is definitely something you should look into. How many places are there for fans in your case and where are they located?

Also the Deepcool Gamma Archer is a pretty poor cooler, especially for the FX8320, it's not really designed for 100W+ CPU's.

Edit: I think I found your case. It says there is room to mount a 120mm fan in the front, and 80mm fans at the side and rear. Is this correct?
 
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Im no expert on any of this (thats why i came here) so i may be wrong but it looks like i could get a 120mm fan on the front and then 2 spaces on the side, one was 80mm and one was 110mm on the sides
 
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Yeah sorry, i dont think i was looking at a fan slot, there is one on the back and front and side
 
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So none of these locations presently have a fan? If not, I would consider as a minimum a fan for the front and one for the rear. This should help lower your temps inside the case. It may help with some of your heat issues. I would start with this before spending any more money. This may resolve some of your problems.
 
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So would this fix my heating issue?

1) Reapply a good Thermal Paste
2) Add a new cpu fan such as Hyper 212X
3) Add in a 120mm case fan and 2 80mm case fans
4) Clean out any dust (not that there is much) with a pressurized air canister

Or would i be better off getting a new motherboard like the Asus M5A97 ( i am trying to avoid getting a new motherboard as much as possible)
 
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I would start with the fans in the case. For now I would start with the front and rear fans. Side door fans are a pita, so I'd only consider it if you need it. Thermal paste wouldn't hurt either. Cleaning out the dust is always a good first thing to do, it's free and doesn't take much time. Well I guess not quite free since you need compress air, but it's part of the regular maintenance.

Then if you are still having heat issues with the CPU, then I'd consider a new CPU cooler. The Hyper 212 is a very good cooler.

Replacing the motherboard is the last thing I'd do here. You have a few obvious things you can do first to correct your issues. Do the least expensive and work your way up. The fans really need to be there whether you change the motherboard or not. That motherboard is known to have issues with the 8 "core" FX processors because of the underpowered VRM's (and undercooled), but if you're not overclocking and you get the temps down inside your case, you might be able to avoid it.
 
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